Template talk:Did you know/Approved
This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.
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Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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May 2 | 1 | |
May 10 | 1 | |
May 12 | 2 | 1 |
May 14 | 1 | 1 |
May 16 | 1 | |
May 17 | 2 | |
May 20 | 3 | |
May 21 | 2 | |
May 22 | 3 | 1 |
May 26 | 1 | |
May 27 | 2 | |
May 28 | 1 | |
May 29 | 1 | |
May 30 | 2 | |
June 2 | 1 | |
June 3 | 2 | |
June 5 | 1 | 1 |
June 6 | 1 | |
June 7 | 2 | |
June 8 | 1 | |
June 9 | 5 | 1 |
June 10 | 1 | 1 |
June 11 | 1 | |
June 12 | 6 | 5 |
June 13 | 7 | 6 |
June 14 | 5 | 3 |
June 15 | 4 | 3 |
June 16 | 4 | 4 |
June 17 | 7 | 4 |
June 18 | 7 | 7 |
June 19 | 3 | 2 |
June 20 | 4 | 3 |
June 21 | 9 | 7 |
June 22 | 10 | 7 |
June 23 | 13 | 6 |
June 24 | 9 | 1 |
June 25 | 10 | 6 |
June 26 | 10 | 4 |
June 27 | 5 | 4 |
June 28 | 8 | 3 |
June 29 | 6 | 3 |
June 30 | 8 | 1 |
July 1 | 11 | 4 |
July 2 | 5 | 2 |
July 3 | 9 | 5 |
July 4 | 9 | 4 |
July 5 | 7 | 1 |
Total | 214 | 101 |
Last updated 22:27, 5 July 2024 UTC Current time is 23:36, 5 July 2024 UTC [refresh] |
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Instructions for other editors
editHow to promote an accepted hook
edit- See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
- In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
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- In the prep set...
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- Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
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- Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted original hook to Prep 3", preview, and save
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
edit- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
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- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
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- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
Nominations
editSpecial occasion holding area
editNon-Olympics requests
editJuly 17
editPure Japanese
- ... that Pure Japanese is titled so in its native Japan?
- Source: The movie's trailer and poster
- ALT0a: ... that Pure Japanese is released under this English title in its native Japan?
- ALT1: ... that Pure Japanese uses the idea that "if the operating system called the language controls the thoughts and actions of the human race to deliver language OS DNAs to the future"? Source: If Japanese language is the human OS tool and if that OS is simply driving the human race to deliver "Language OS DNAs" to the future, the question is "where is this demigod-like language OS taking Japanese tribe to?" That was the idea.
- ALT2: ... that Pure Japanese is a film that offers both Ninja shows and action scenes? Source: I learned the Ninja moves in Nikko. I practiced with the actual Ninja players at Nikko Edo Wonderland a few times but prior to that, I spent more time in the studio with the action team to get the basic movements down.
- ALT3: ... that in Pure Japanese, there is a tool called the "PJ kit" to measure the purity of Japanese people? Source: 本作に登場する検査キット(PJキット)はパロディというか、ギャグですよね。/The test kit (PJ kit) in this work is a parody or a gag.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of roles and awards of Liza Soberano
- Comment: Yes, the hook is stating the obvious, but just notice the irony in the title. I've provided a modified version of hook in case it's a little unclear; I just think ALT0 is more concise. Please hold for July 17, on the movie's second anniversary outside Japan
Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 08:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 01:46, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: GA DYK on approval day, satisfactory GAR, enough said. I prefer ALT0. BTW ALT2 and ALT3 aren't written in compliance with WP:DYKFICTION; ALT2 should clarify it is part of the production process, not the plot, and ALT3 is part of the plot. ミラP@Miraclepine 02:09, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
July 26
editKubrick stare
- ... that Donald Trump's mugshot has been described as a Kubrick stare?
- ALT1: ... that a Kubrick stare can break the fourth wall? Source: https://journals.openedition.org/essais/646
- ALT2: ... that the Kubrick stare is one of "cinema's most recognizable shots"? Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/donald-trump-mugshot-stanley-kubrick/
- ALT3: ... that a Kubrick stare can be "invasive" and "troubling"? Source: https://journals.openedition.org/essais/646
- Reviewed: Isabella Correa
- Comment: I'm eschewing the McDowell image as it is too closely cropped and eliminates the forehead, which has been mentioned as an element of the Kubrick stare. I really desire this to be an image hook (as does the subject of the photo), so I'm fine with a set-builder pushing this far back or anything similar.
Bremps... 10:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ is done, article is new enough, article is long enough. WP:EARWIG says "Violation Unlikely". Personally I would not use the hook mentioning Trump's mug shot, because it would be a bit strange to mention it but then show an entirely different photograph. ALT3 is the one I think is best because it matches the photograph the most. Overall, good to go for ALT3. Di (they-them) (talk) 15:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I just noticed that Stanley Kubrick's 96th birthday is coming up on July 26. If it does not compromise the image hook, could we have the hook run on that date? Thanks. Bremps... 19:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- No objections from me! Di (they-them) (talk) 00:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I just noticed that Stanley Kubrick's 96th birthday is coming up on July 26. If it does not compromise the image hook, could we have the hook run on that date? Thanks. Bremps... 19:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Summer Olympics, July 26 through August 11
editPlease see Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table for potential timing changes.
July 19 (pre-Olympics hook)
edit2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles
- ... that Femke Bol won the women's 400 metres hurdles (medalists pictured) at the 2024 European Athletics Championships in a championship record of 52.49 seconds?
- Source: source ("1 1906 BOL Femke Netherlands NED 23 FEB 2000 6 0.180 52.49 CR")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dorothy Dworkin
- Comment: I think that the image should be cropped like it is in the article.
Editør (talk) 16:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment – I have also expanded the article 2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles five times, so maybe it could be included in an alternative hook, but I haven't figured out how to do this or what that hook should be. – Editør (talk) 23:27, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if you can come up with a hook that covers both topics, we can simply add this. I can do the mechanics for you, just give me a ping. However, I struggle to think of a good hook for such a double-nomination. If you can't think of something suitable, simply nominate this as a separate listing. Also, please see Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table for your info. Schwede66 04:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for offering your help. I was also struggling with the hook, the ones I can think of lose focus, so I will just leave it like this. The first round heats of the women's 400 m hurdles at the 2024 Summer Olympics are on 5 August, according to this schedule, so maybe this hook could be added on that day? – Editør (talk) 08:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: I have nominated the second article for another DYK, you could also use that one for the Olympic theme, let me know if you require me to do anything for this. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've uploaded a cropped version and replaced the original image. Schwede66 04:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've also used the cropped version in the article. – Editør (talk) 07:18, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've uploaded a cropped version and replaced the original image. Schwede66 04:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: I have nominated the second article for another DYK, you could also use that one for the Olympic theme, let me know if you require me to do anything for this. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for offering your help. I was also struggling with the hook, the ones I can think of lose focus, so I will just leave it like this. The first round heats of the women's 400 m hurdles at the 2024 Summer Olympics are on 5 August, according to this schedule, so maybe this hook could be added on that day? – Editør (talk) 08:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if you can come up with a hook that covers both topics, we can simply add this. I can do the mechanics for you, just give me a ping. However, I struggle to think of a good hook for such a double-nomination. If you can't think of something suitable, simply nominate this as a separate listing. Also, please see Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table for your info. Schwede66 04:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, I shall review this. Schwede66 21:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is a new GA, nominated the day it passed. Plenty long enough. Everything is sourced. The article is neutral and Earwig didn't bring up anything. The hook is interesting and referenced. The image license is fine and whilst not the highest resolution, the photo would be fine on the main page. QPQ has been done. The one suggestion for potential improvement that I can offer, and I note that this won't hold up the DYK, is that I wouldn't start this sentence with a time as, in my view, it violates (at least in spirit) MOS:NUMNOTES:
1.74 seconds after Bol, Louise Maraval of France finished second in 54.23 seconds...
. Instead, you could consider:Louise Maraval of France finished second in 54.23 seconds, 1.74 seconds after Bol...
. Good work! Schwede66 22:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)- Thank you for your review. I've changed the sentence to "Louise Maraval of France finished in second place 1.74 seconds after Bol, setting a new personal best (PB) of 54.23 seconds, ...". – Editør (talk) 11:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
July 23 (pre-Olympics hook)
editToby Olubi, Can't Touch This (game show)
- ... that Toby Olubi has claimed to have funded his Olympic bobsled career by being "shot out of a cannon"? Source: https://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/sport/national/15893627.human-cannonball-toby-olubi-turns-focus-bobsleigh-duties-pyeongchang/
- ALT1: ... that Toby Olubi has claimed to have funded his Olympic bobsled career by becoming "a human cannonball"?
- ALT2: ... that Toby Olubi funded his Olympic bobsled career with £12,000 from Deal or No Deal?
- ALT3: ... that prior to broadcast, the "unspecified marque" on Can't Touch This had been used as an example of why British game show prizes were "rubbish"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Claude_Hamilton_Verity
- Comment: I can't get over The Telegraph, The Times, The Guardian, and even the BBC all printing as gospel that he actually did it - he was in fact shot out of a catapult. Where's your fact checking?
Launchballer 13:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC).
- Good work Launchballer. 5x expansion, article is properly sourced, and hook is interesting. 48JCLTALK 01:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @48JCL: Which article are you referring to? This is a double nomination.--Launchballer 14:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Both. 48JCLTALK 15:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I personally like ALT1 or ALT0, but ALT1 my preference. 48JCLTALK 15:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @48JCL: Which article are you referring to? This is a double nomination.--Launchballer 14:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- This had already been through admin checks. I've pulled it out of Q3 and put it into the Olympics SOHA. Schwede66 23:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
July 24 (pre-Olympics hook)
editPhilippines at the 1924 Summer Olympics
- ... that for the opening ceremony of the 1924 Summer Olympics, the Philippines held two flags as they were still a colony of the United States?
- ALT1: ... that the Philippines sent athletes at the 1924 Summer Olympics because of an athlete that didn't compete at the Games? Source: [5]
- ALT2: ... that at the 1924 Summer Olympics, the Philippines was the first Southeast Asian nation to compete at the Olympics? Source: [6]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gladys Cromwell
Arconning (talk) 16:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Image eligibility:
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: I prefer ALT 1 TheNuggeteer (talk) 04:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
July 25
editJuly 27
editFathimath Dheema Ali
- ... that Fathimath Dheema Ali is the first Olympic qualifier from the Maldives?
- Source: Maldives Olympic Committee (previous Maldivian Olympians entered only through a quota)
- ALT1: ... that table tennis player Fathimath Dheema Ali competed at the world championships when she was age 10? Source: Olympics.com
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Hutton
BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 00:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Adequate sourcing: - Refs 2, 8, and 9 don't mention a bronze medal, but everything else is fine.
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QPQ: - Not done
Overall: Created seven days before nom and prose is 2909 B. BeanieFan11, do the QPQ and fix the sourcing issue, and you're good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Can I please suggest that we run this hook on 27 July, which is when the single women's table tennis preliminary round starts? See Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table for background. Schwede66 04:44, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Have the above been addressed and resolved? Z1720 (talk) 15:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: QPQ done and added a reference for the bronze medal. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:35, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: In that case, ALT0 approved. ミラP@Miraclepine 20:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
July 31
editDylan Travis
- ... that in nine years, basketball player Dylan Travis played for nine head coaches?
- Source: USA Basketball ("In nine years of playing basketball beyond the high school level, he played for nine different coaches.")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
- Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 11 June and exceeds minimum length; article is generally well written (I couldn't parse "was named first-team All-State, All-Metro and to the Lincoln Journal Star's Super-State Team" but might just be my ignorance of basketball?); sources cited look to be reliable enough, though I am not familiar with them; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing from a spot check; hook fact is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to the source cited. My first review for a good few months but looks fine to me except that a QPQ is awaited - Dumelow (talk) 15:19, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Following up on the QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: QPQ done; sorry for the delay. (Also, in the sentence you mention, those things mentioned are different all-star teams.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 16:06, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: QPQ done; sorry for the delay. (Also, in the sentence you mention, those things mentioned are different all-star teams.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Following up on the QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
August 4
edit2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres, 2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles
- ... that Femke Bol won the women's 400 metres and 400 metres hurdles (final pictured) in an unprecedented double victory at the 2022 European Athletics Championships?
- Source: Dutch source "Missie geslaagd. Femke Bol heeft vrijdagavond in München voor een unieke dubbelslag op een groot titeltoernooi in de atletiekwereld gezorgd. Het 22-jarige supertalent liep naar de Europese titel op de 400 meter horden. Twee dagen eerder was ze al Europees kampioene op de 400 meter zonder hindernissen geworden. Geen enkele vrouw deed dat eerder." English source alternative
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/María Pacheco, Template:Did you know nominations/Alyssa Mendoza
Editør (talk) 10:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
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Image eligibility:
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- Clear at 100px: - Personally I feel at 100px the current image is too wide to be useful for this nomination. I would suggest changing it for either the Brossier/Bol photo from the 400m semi or the Lehikoinen/Bol photo from the 400m hurdles final, but I will also leave this up to the promoter if they feel differently.
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Overall: Both articles' prose meets 5x expansion. Readable prose on both also surpasses the target. Generally well sourced and well written, hook is also cited and interesting. Images are free, however some issues regarding the selected image (see above). 2 QPQs done to match the double bold articles. Besides potentially swapping the image out for another I'm happy to pass the DYK for these articles. Great job! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 09:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. I would prefer the Lehikoinen/Bol photo as alternative. – Editør (talk) 10:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Or a cropped version of the originally proposed photo if that is an option (cropped to a square, centered on Bol). – Editør (talk) 10:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've added a crop of the above. Not a square; this looks better (I looked at a square crop first). Schwede66 02:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I'd prefer your crop. I think the hook and image caption should be changed to:
- I've added a crop of the above. Not a square; this looks better (I looked at a square crop first). Schwede66 02:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Or a cropped version of the originally proposed photo if that is an option (cropped to a square, centered on Bol). – Editør (talk) 10:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- ... that Femke Bol (pictured) won the women's 400 metres and 400 metres hurdles in an unprecedented double victory at the 2022 European Athletics Championships?
- – Editør (talk) 08:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
August 9
editManizha Talash
- ... that Manizha Talash is "Afghanistan's first female breakdancer"?
- Source: Reuters
- ALT1: ... that Olympic breakdancer Manizha Talash said that when she saw a video "of a man just spinning over his head ... I immediately told myself: 'That's what I want to do with my life!'"? Source: same
- ALT2: ... that Olympic breakdancer Manizha Talash has continued performing despite receiving death threats? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/"We want the ball and we're going to score!"
BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:44, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but can I suggest that, if this gets approved, that we run this hook on 9 August? See Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table for background. Could we also have a hook that mentions the Olympics, please? Schwede66 04:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Please complete the QPQ. Z1720 (talk) 15:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- New enough and long enough. QPQ has since been supplied. All hook facts check out and are interesting in various ways, especially ALT0/ALT1. Dunno if we need quotes on the quote from the headline. No textual or other issues. Fine for the 9 August Olympic suggestion. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Approved nominations
editArticles created/expanded on May 12
editLillie Shockney
- ... that Lillie Shockney is a co-founder of the Academy of Oncology Nurse & Patient Navigators?
- ALT1: ... that breast cancer patients became a primary patient population for nurse navigation after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital? Source: https://www.myamericannurse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/an12-Oncology-Navigtion-1201.pdf "Breast cancer navigation became a primary patient population focus of nurse navigation when Lillie Shockney, MAS, BS, RN, publicized her success at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, where she helped increase appointment completions, improve timeliness of care, and expedite chemotherapy start time by 2 weeks."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Evgeniia Subbotina
Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC).
- The article is long enough and new enough with no copyright violations. All of the references are reliable. The article is neutral. Both hooks are cited, but I prefer ALT1. SL93 (talk) 21:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- As a promoter, I also greatly prefer ALT1, but I don't quite understand the "nurse navigation" bit. What's the best way to simplify the hook Mary Mark Ockerbloom? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- The "nurse navigation" or "patient navigation" field is one that few people will know and hopefully people will go to the page to find out more about it. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah I see, is there any way we can rephrase "primary patient population" to make it more accessible for the general reader then Mary Mark Ockerbloom? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- The "nurse navigation" or "patient navigation" field is one that few people will know and hopefully people will go to the page to find out more about it. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29, I get it now. How's this? (same references and meaning, less tachnical language) Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that breast cancer patients became a population who frequently worked with nurse navigators after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital?
- ...I'm not sure, I think it's still a little unclear. I'll wait to see what another promoter thinks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- As a promoter, I also greatly prefer ALT1, but I don't quite understand the "nurse navigation" bit. What's the best way to simplify the hook Mary Mark Ockerbloom? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with AirshipJungleman29. It can be confusing to readers based on the lack of context. 48JCL TALK 11:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1b: ... that breast cancer patients started to work more frequently with nurse navigators after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital?
- ALT2: ... that Lillie Shockney organized a program at Johns Hopkins Hospital in which nurse navigators help breast cancer patients to deal with daily life issues as well as medical treatment? Additional source: "patient navigators, including social workers, often focus on practical problems, including transportation, childcare, housing, and psychosocial issues." Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 21:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- SL93 are you available to review the above two hooks? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- The new hooks are both verified, and I prefer ALT1b as the shortest and more to the point. SL93 (talk) 17:48, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @SL93: Someone has uploaded a photo of her, so I have added it to the infobox, the wikidata entity and the nomination template. Thanks everyone! Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:12, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm leaving this for another promoter to pick up, should they wish. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why do we think this photo is actually CC-BY-SA like the commons page claims? The Author is listed as "Lillie Shockney"; considering this is a photo of Lillie Shockney, and looks like a studio portrait, it's unlikely that it's a selfie, and thus the Author is incorrect. The author of a photograph is the photographer. And it's apparently downloaded from https://aonnonline.org/authors?autid=1:lillie-shockney-2, which has a highly restrictive TOS statement. RoySmith (talk) 23:08, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the photo from the nomination. Issue resolved; this can now be promoted. Schwede66 05:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I suspect that other promoters are also finding the hook difficult to parse: we are approaching the two-month old limit. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- They all read awkward and obtuse to me, Rjjiii (talk) 03:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- RoySmith You previously mentioned closing noms that are old. How do you feel about this one? I'm not attached to any of the hooks, and I do see where the complaints are coming from. SL93 (talk) 23:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- They all read awkward and obtuse to me, Rjjiii (talk) 03:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I suspect that other promoters are also finding the hook difficult to parse: we are approaching the two-month old limit. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the photo from the nomination. Issue resolved; this can now be promoted. Schwede66 05:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why do we think this photo is actually CC-BY-SA like the commons page claims? The Author is listed as "Lillie Shockney"; considering this is a photo of Lillie Shockney, and looks like a studio portrait, it's unlikely that it's a selfie, and thus the Author is incorrect. The author of a photograph is the photographer. And it's apparently downloaded from https://aonnonline.org/authors?autid=1:lillie-shockney-2, which has a highly restrictive TOS statement. RoySmith (talk) 23:08, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm leaving this for another promoter to pick up, should they wish. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 14
editSaleh Manaf
- ... that during the protests against Bekasi regent Saleh Manaf, protesters sealed his office and put two goat heads in front of the door? Source: https://www.liputan6.com/news/read/107867/pintu-ruangan-bupati-bekasi-disegel-kepala-kambing
- Reviewed:
- Comment: DYKcheck: "Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 11 edits ago on May 10, 2024"
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: The Bekasi link in the hook is linked to Bekasi city instead of Bekasi Regency. I fixed it Nyanardsan (talk) 07:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Please complete a QPQ and link to it above Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Has not supplied a QPQ, so I am marking this for closure as rejected. Z1720 (talk) 00:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: I've done a QPQ here! Please retract the closure. Real life got in my way. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael
New reviewer required. Z1720 (talk) 17:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: As noted above, the lede should be beefed up before this hits the main page. Also, given the recent RFC, I'm not sure focusing on the negative aspects of this BLP (i.e., the goat head protest), is going to fly on the main page. It's a very interesting fact, and supported by Liputan6, but something else may work better in the current climate. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: I've expanded the lede of the article, but I might need some help finding interesting part of the article other than the BLPed hook. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe something like "that Saleh Manaf became Regent of Bekasi even after his party attempted to annul the results?". If we have an ALT, we can allow the admin making the queues to make the decision. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: ALT1: "... that Saleh Manaf was elected as the Regent of Bekasi despite being a dummy candidate in the election?" Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. That should give the promoting administrator a choice and hopefully avoid any fuss at the main page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: "... that Saleh Manaf was elected as the Regent of Bekasi despite being an underdog in the election?". Tagging SL93. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Unpromoted per WT:DYK. New review needed for ALT2. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Where is it in the article?--Launchballer 17:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: It was not mentioned explicitly previously, but there was a discussion regarding this in here. I've copyedited the article to make the fact in the hook more explicit. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 18:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is not what an underdog is (someone expected to lose), and in either case you'd need an end-of-sentence citation for it.--Launchballer 18:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Alright then, change of hook. ALT4: "... that the regent of Bekasi, Saleh Manaf, was protested by his own local environment service?" quote from: this one, ref no. 14
Beberapa waktu yang lalu, Dinas Kebersihan Kabupaten Bekasi sebenarnya sudah mengirimkan surat protes kepada Bupati Bekasi, meminta pertanggung-jawaban bupati terhadap dampak lingkungan dan akibat sampah yang dibuang truk pengangkut sampah.
(Some time ago, the Bekasi Regency Environment Service actually sent a letter of protest to the Regent of Bekasi, asking the regent to be responsible for the environmental impact and consequences of the waste thrown by the waste trucks.)- Looks good to me.--Launchballer 06:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- "was protested" seems clunky, but I can't quite think of a better phrasing. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a look at this when I get back. My initial gambit is ALT4a: ... that Bekasi's local environment service protested its own regent?--Launchballer 16:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- "was protested" seems clunky, but I can't quite think of a better phrasing. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to me.--Launchballer 06:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Alright then, change of hook. ALT4: "... that the regent of Bekasi, Saleh Manaf, was protested by his own local environment service?" quote from: this one, ref no. 14
- That is not what an underdog is (someone expected to lose), and in either case you'd need an end-of-sentence citation for it.--Launchballer 18:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: It was not mentioned explicitly previously, but there was a discussion regarding this in here. I've copyedited the article to make the fact in the hook more explicit. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 18:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 22
editThe Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs
- ... that while reviewers generally praised The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs, one reviewer complained that the author was "so nice about his colleagues that it makes you long for a juicy academic vendetta"?
- Reviewed: Fewer than 5 past noms, no QPQ required
- Comment: I don't have a direct source for generally positive reviews, but I haven't been able to find a single review that didn't primarily praise the book. If this is an issue I can reword the hook to exclude that.
Rusalkii (talk) 04:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC).
- @Rusalkii: Article is long enough, well sourced, and is free from copyvio (apart from direct quotes from reviews, obviously). Article is new enough: published into mainspace the same day DYK was submitted. The hook is interesting, but I couldn't access the hook source directly due to a paywall. It doesn't affect the DYK nom but there are a lot of sources like that in the article; I would recommend adding accessible archived URLs for the sources like that if you get a chance. One pedantic thing before approval: since the original quote says that he "is" so nice, the word "was" in the hook should be moved outside of the quotation marks since it's not a direct quote. Other than that there's nothing preventing this from approval on good faith. Kimikel (talk) 21:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Quote fixed. I'll attempt to find an un-paywalled source later. Rusalkii (talk) 22:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Marking this as approved per Kimikel's review, since the tick is needed for the bot to process the approval. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 10:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Quote fixed. I'll attempt to find an un-paywalled source later. Rusalkii (talk) 22:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 5
editNathan Steuer
- ... that Nathan Steuer (pictured) started tournament-level Magic: The Gathering as a pre-teen, saying the "13 and up" on Magic packaging was "just recommended"?
- Source: https://magic.gg/news/the-week-that-was-the-greatest-steuer-ever-told "The year was 2015, and young Nathan Steuer was playing in his first-ever Grand Prix Day Two."
- https://web.archive.org/web/20210513172806/https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpsd15/magical-futures-2015-08-09 "We used to tease him about the ‘13 and up' on Magic packaging until he cracked back ‘It's just recommended'." https://magic.gg/news/the-week-that-was-the-greatest-steuer-ever-told
- ALT1: ... that Magic: The Gathering world champion Nathan Steuer (pictured) started tournament-level play as a pre-teen, saying the "13 and up" on Magic packaging was "just recommended"?
- Same content just a bit more explicit about why he's a big deal.
GRuban (talk) 14:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC).
- @GRuban: QPQ is done. Article is long enough and moved to mainspace same day as DYK submission. Hooks are both interesting and sourced correctly; I prefer ALT1. Article is presentable and free from copyvio. I have two minor issues with the article's citations: 1) I added a citation needed tag, and 2) the article uses X as a source. Other than those two things, there's nothing else needed for approval. Kimikel (talk) 01:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: 1) Cited where requested. 2) X is OK per WP:ABOUTSELF, specifically it's a post from the Ultimate Guard company that says that Steuer is now a member of Team Ultimate Guard, which is the fact that it is backing up. There are other sources that also say it, but this is the one from the horse's mouth, so to speak. --GRuban (talk) 13:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Appproving both hooks, preference towards ALT1. Concerns addressed. Thank you GRuban - Kimikel (talk) 14:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: 1) Cited where requested. 2) X is OK per WP:ABOUTSELF, specifically it's a post from the Ultimate Guard company that says that Steuer is now a member of Team Ultimate Guard, which is the fact that it is backing up. There are other sources that also say it, but this is the one from the horse's mouth, so to speak. --GRuban (talk) 13:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 9
editSydnie Christmas
- ... that the winner of the seventeenth series of Britain's Got Talent is the first credited woman to win the show without a dog? Source: https://www.whattowatch.com/news/britains-got-talent-winners-629519
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Peewee Jarrett
- Comment: Drive-by nomination, as it's been around 6.875 days since this was converted from a redirect and I want to get this in under the wire. I have a small amount of work to do, starting with the excision of those ugly WP:CLUMPs. Note that I've included 'credited' because, as can quite clearly be seen in the image in the cited source, series 4 winners Spelbound also contained women. Also noting that the majority of this article was created by an IP.
Launchballer 21:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC).
- Review: Newly expanded article from a redirect meeting the required length size of prose. BLP is notable to exist as a standalone article now passing WP:ARTIST. No apparent copyvios. QPQ done. Rest article seems fine. Problem comes with only the fact that this is a synthesis and hence not perfectly verifiable. Do we have any another source mentioning her to be the first woman winner without a dog? Or else, do we have anything else from the article to a new hook? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's in HuffPost, which I've added back to the article.--Launchballer 08:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Great! All set to go. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:02, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's in HuffPost, which I've added back to the article.--Launchballer 08:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm unsure what "credited" means in the hook. Were the women of Attraction (group) (series 7) not credited Launchballer? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Their names don't appear in the act's name in the same way that, say, Ashleigh appears in Ashleigh and Pudsey.--Launchballer 00:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think "credited" can be used that way. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I can't see that source. Googling 'credit define' gives one definition of 'publicly acknowledge a contributor's role in the production of (something published or broadcast)' - is there not a similar definition in the OED source? And if not, how would you convey this information? (HuffPost, the piece used in the article, says "the only solo woman to ever triumph on BGT without the aid of a dog sidekick", but I would argue that "Ashleigh and Pudsey" is quite clearly a double act.)--Launchballer 10:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could we not say "first individual woman" or something? I agree that "first credited woman" reads oddly here. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that the winner of the seventeenth series of Britain's Got Talent is the first individual woman to win the show without a dog?--Launchballer 06:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could we not say "first individual woman" or something? I agree that "first credited woman" reads oddly here. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I can't see that source. Googling 'credit define' gives one definition of 'publicly acknowledge a contributor's role in the production of (something published or broadcast)' - is there not a similar definition in the OED source? And if not, how would you convey this information? (HuffPost, the piece used in the article, says "the only solo woman to ever triumph on BGT without the aid of a dog sidekick", but I would argue that "Ashleigh and Pudsey" is quite clearly a double act.)--Launchballer 10:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think "credited" can be used that way. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Their names don't appear in the act's name in the same way that, say, Ashleigh appears in Ashleigh and Pudsey.--Launchballer 00:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 10
editInfested
- ... that with the horror film Infested, the French director Sébastien Vaniček wanted to show how not frightening but "complex and beautiful" spiders are?
- ALT1: ... that the French director Sébastien Vaniček conceived the horror film Infested as a social commentary on xenophobia, finding parallels between spiders and banlieue residents? Source: "We don't like that (spiders) have eight legs, and they can move fast, and they can go from this way to this way, they can jump. And that's xenophobia. ... You have this interesting parallel with spiders, because spiders are judged for their appearances, and then people from the suburbs are judged for where they come from."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/In a World...(2nd nomination)
Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 22:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article new and long enough at the time of nomination. Length and referencing adequate ("Plot" isn't but that's MOS). No copyvio per Earwig aside from the block of interview quote. Hook interesting, cited inline. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 12
editNederlandsche Kultuurkamer
- ... that, of the three presidents of the Chamber of Dutch Culture, two were arrested and one was assassinated? Source: Goedewaagen arrested: "Dr. T. (Tobie) Goedewaagen" (in Dutch). Parlementair Documentatie Centrum. Archived from the original on 10 January 2023. Retrieved 11 June 2024.; Reydon assassinated: "Mr. H. Reydon Overleden" [Mr. H. Reydon Dies]. Nieuwsblad van het Noorden (in Dutch). Groningen. 25 August 1943. p. 1.; De Ranitz arrested: "Jhr.Mr. S.M.S. de Ranitz" (in Dutch). Parlementair Documentatie Centrum. Archived from the original on 27 January 2022. Retrieved 11 June 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Nazi regime in the Netherlands established a cultural organization that numbered more than 42,000 members, from prominent artists to organ grinders? Source: 42,000 members: "Kultuurkamer – Kunst en Cultuur in de Tweede Wereldoorlog" [The Kultuurkamer – Art and Culture in the Second World War]. Historiek (in Dutch). 6 October 2022. (also in Lewin, without a date); Prominent artists to organ grinders: Lewin, Lisette (1983). Het Clandestiene Boek 1940–1945 [The Clandestine Books, 1940–1945]. Van Gennep. p. 76. ISBN 9789060125502.
- ALT2: ... that the poet Adriaan Roland Holst wrote that he would greatly appreciate the disapproval of the Chamber of Dutch Culture? Source: "Kultuurkamer – Kunst en Cultuur in de Tweede Wereldoorlog" [The Kultuurkamer – Art and Culture in the Second World War]. Historiek (in Dutch). 6 October 2022.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving all hooks on good faith. Article is long enough and created day before DYK nomination. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and free from copyvio. All hooks are interesting and sourced, though in Dutch. QPQ done. Good to go, thank you for your nomination Chris Woodrich! Kimikel (talk) 19:36, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
J. D. Arteaga
- ... that J. D. Arteaga, best friend of Alex Rodriguez, did not foresee Rodriguez's talent?
- ALT1: ... that J. D. Arteaga is friends with both a prolific New York Yankee and Boston Red Sock?
- Reviewed:
TarheelBornBred (talk) 16:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC).
- @TarheelBornBred: Article is long enough and created same day as DYK nomination. Article is well-sourced, presentable, and copy-vio free. No QPQ needed. Hook-wise, I prefer ALT0, although I would edit it for contextual sake, and to better reflect the article's content:
- ALT2: ... that J. D. Arteaga, a close friend of MLB All-Star Alex Rodriguez, did not foresee Rodriguez's talent?
- Please let me know your thoughts. Kimikel (talk) 03:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Your version of the hook sounds fine to me; I'm more than willing to submit the article under your revised hook. TarheelBornBred (talk) 01:53, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT2. All good to go, thank you TarheelBornBred! Kimikel (talk) 14:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sticking my nose in while looking through the approved noms. The hook is barely about the subject, and not knowing someone else would become really talented is...in my view, not that interesting. Is there nothing else to be said that actually focuses on Arteaga? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I understand where you're coming from. Maybe to add more context about Arteaga, the hook could become ALT 3: ...that despite being a baseball coach, J. D. Arteaga, close friend of MLB All-Star Alex Rodriguez, did not foresee Rodriguez's talent? This way there is more context concering who Arteaga is and why it is more interesting that he couldn't forsee Rodriguez's talent. Furthemore, considering that Rodriguez is recognized as one of the best baseball players of all time, Arteaga being a close friend of his also is interesting. TarheelBornBred (talk) 05:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT2. All good to go, thank you TarheelBornBred! Kimikel (talk) 14:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
How to Be Perfect
- ... that in his book How to Be Perfect, Michael Schur sought to "wade into some deeply confusing and painful applications of moral philosophy ... but in a fun way"?
- Source: "...Schur makes good on his promise to 'wade into some deeply confusing and painful applications of moral philosophy, stretching and straining and chewing on really tough questions that plague us in our daily lives, that cause us anxiety and anguish and often lead to loud arguments with our closest friends and family. But in a fun way!'" Kirkus Reviews
- Source: "Down to the musical cues and audio cast (which includes the actors Ted Danson, Kristen Bell, Manny Jacinto, and Jameela Jamil), How to Be Perfect could be considered a companion piece to the author's recent hit, The Good Place." Modak, Sebastian. The New York Times Book Review. March 13, 2022. pg 9.
DrOrinScrivello (talk) 13:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving both hooks, with preference to ALT0. Article is long enough and moved to mainspace 2 days before DYK submission. Article is presentable and copyvio-free; if possible, I would recommend adding URLs for the sources that don't have them. Hooks are interesting and sourced well; I think ALT0 is more interesting. QPQ done. Other than that, nothing to comment. Thank you for your submission DrOrinScrivello! Kimikel (talk) 02:33, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Music Sounds Better with You
- ... that the vocalist on the dance song "Music Sounds Better with You" was in a punk band that disapproved of his collaboration with electronic musicians?
- ALT1: ... that Thomas Bangalter declined an offer of over $3 million from Virgin Records to make a Stardust album after the success of their song "Music Sounds Better with You"?
lunaeclipse (talk) 21:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Since I am a relatively new user (est Dec2023), I am not sure if ALT0 violates NPOV. But regardless, I prefer ALT1 JuniperChill (talk) 22:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Tobie Goedewaagen
- ... that Tobie Goedewaagen (pictured), a minister under the Nazi occupation government, fled the Netherlands with his belongings in a bedspread?
- Source: "Dr. T. (Tobie) Goedewaagen" (in Dutch). Parlementair Documentatie Centrum. Archived from the original on 10 January 2023. Retrieved 11 June 2024.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 668 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.— Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: I am assuming in good faith that the Dutch refs adequately support the text and that there is no plagiarism. I've done a general search myself as to the subject of the bio in English sources. There were some deletions made to the article of the word Nazi here; restoring the word would help make this properly neutral in accuracy, and I would be happy then to pass this final item of the qpq. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:FD8F:5C17:CABB:9E61 (talk) 20:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
@DYK admins: I started working on this, but my comments so far are not showing up .. am I doing something wrong in format? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:FD8F:5C17:CABB:9E61 (talk) 20:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- gotta have the status field filled in :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi 2603. I've moved "Nazi" back in front of "German occupation". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Looks good. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:900D:526B:7A29:78AD (talk) 02:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 13
edit1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria
- ... that during the 1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria, some troops refused orders to fire upon the protesters?
- Source: Bell, John D. (2019). Peasants in Power: Alexander Stamboliski and the Bulgarian Agrarian National Union, 1899-1923. Princeton University Press. ISBN 978-0-691-65544-4, p. 45: "By dawn of the following day, the balance of forces had so shifted that the peasants decided to challenge the troops by marching to Ruse. When they approached the troops the commander gave the order to open fire. The soldiers, however, refused to shoot into the peasants and fired two volleys into the air. The commander himself drew his revolver and fired at the peasants, who rushed at him and made him prisoner. Some of the soldiers allowed their weapons to be taken and the rest retreated."
- Source 2: Hristov, Hristo (1962). Селските вълнения и бунтове 1899–1900 [Peasant Disturbances and Rebellions 1899–1900] (in Bulgarian). Izdatelstvo na Natsionalnia Savet na Otechestvenia Front: "Постигането на първите успехи повдигна духа на селяните и положението на стражарите и войниците стана критично. За да сломи нападателния дух на селяните, командирът на войсковия отред даде заповед за стрелба. Но войниците отказаха да стрелят в своите бащи и братя. Не беше изпълнена също така и заповедта „На нож!“. Войската се колебаеше."
- Translation from Bulgarian: "The achievement of the first successes raised the spirits of the villagers and the situation of the guards and soldiers became critical. To break the offensive spirit of the villagers, the commander of the military detachment gave the order to shoot. But the soldiers refused to shoot their fathers and brothers. The order "On a knife!" was also not carried out. The army hesitated."
Anonimu (talk) 14:11, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
- @Anonimu: Article is long enough and new enough. QPQ not needed. Article is well-sourced and copyvio-free. Hook is interesting and well-sourced. The article has an issue with presentability: there are many dead links. I recommend either de-linking them or linking to their Bulgarian Wikipedia equivalents. Once this is resolved, I can approve the nomination. Kimikel (talk) 04:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I added inter-language links for all targets that had substantial content in other wikis and removed one link.Anonimu (talk) 11:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go, thank you for your nomination Anonimu - Kimikel (talk) 14:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I added inter-language links for all targets that had substantial content in other wikis and removed one link.Anonimu (talk) 11:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Harriette Cooke
- ... that Cornell College professor Harriette Cooke started the Cornell’s Ladies Battalion in 1889, and the women held drills in skirted uniforms while using wooden wands in the place of rifles?
- Source: Rexroat, Dee Ann (February 17, 2021). "Pioneering women: The top moments in women's history at Cornell College". Cornell College News Center. Retrieved June 13, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of historic places in Gore District
- Comment: The DYK check is wrong when it says that the article has not been expanded at least 5x. It was 810 characters of prose prior to expansion, and it is now 4,059 characters of prose. 810 times 5 is 4,050.
SL93 (talk) 09:40, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
- If the hook must be independent of the subject, I have -
- ALT1 ... that Cornell College professor Harriette Cooke was also a deaconess? SL93 (talk) 01:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT1. Article is long enough and 5x expanded on the day of DYK submission. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and copyvio-free. QPQ done. Both hooks are interesting and sourced; however, I feel ALT0 is a little verbose and could be worded in a way that flowed better. Other than that, all good to go. Thank you for the nomination SL93! Kimikel (talk) 19:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Ghost in the Machine (song)
- ... that one critic interpreted a SZA song as being about her fears about the growing influence of AI in the music industry?
- Source: American Songwriter: " For most of the track, SZA smoothly croons about the disheartening taste in the music industry. As she notices the growing influence of artificial intelligence on the pop landscape, evident in the Robot got future, I don't lyric, she looks to her lover to distract her from her worrisome reality."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WRLH (New Hampshire)
- Comment: Open to hook suggestions.
PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 01:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
- @PSA and Dylan620: Please provide a QPQ. Z1720 (talk) 15:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720: D'oh! Apologies for the oversight and thank you for catching that – I've added an older review of mine as a QPQ. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 16:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Approving nomination. Article is long enough and passed GA review 7 days prior to DYK nomination. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and copy-vio free. The hook is interesting and sourced well. QPQ is done. Nothing else to comment on from me. Thank you for the submission PSA and Dylan620! Kimikel (talk) 03:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Narragansett Pier Railroad
- ... that owners of the Narragansett Pier Railroad included a family of industrialists, a dentist, a systems analyst, a lumberyard, and the founder of Textron? Source: A Short Haul to the Bay: A History of the Narragansett Pier Railroad by James N. J. Henwood. Dentist supported by [7] Bangor Daily News, December 28, 1979, page 2.
Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving on good faith. Article is long enough and promoted to GA four days before DYK nom. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and free from copyvio. Hook is interesting, source is acceptable on good faith. Image meets criteria. QPQ done. Nothing else to comment on from me. Thank you for your nomination Trainsandotherthings! Kimikel (talk) 03:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- File:Narragansett Pier Railroad 11.jpg is a technically superior image; if we run an image, I strongly suggest we use that instead. On the other hand, while both images are marked CC-BY-SA-4.0 on the https://provlibdigital.org/ site where they came from, I have my doubts as to whether that's legitimate. @Trainsandotherthings and Nikkimaria:. RoySmith (talk) 20:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: You're right that the original photo I proposed isn't the best choice. I uploaded the photo you proposed after I made this nomination and forgot to suggest it here, so thanks for catching that. In the interest of this not sitting in pending forever, we can either remove the photos or substitute this photo from 1876 which is quite unlikely to still be under copyright due to its nearly 150 year age. I think we need to start a discussion on Commons regarding the other photos and get some input from editors there. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Here's that image in the small size. It's kind of marginal IMHO. RoySmith (talk) 20:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Trainsandotherthings: just poking around, a found a few images that I think should qualify for PD (and some other stuff that you may or may not have already found) and might be interesting:
- https://ghostsofwallstreet.com/products/narragansett-pier-railroad-company
- https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/narragansett-pier-railroad-monthly-2117687760
- https://smallstatebighistory.com/narraganset-pier-railroads-operations-in-1964-described-by-the-companys-president/
Chicken of Tomorrow Contest
- ... that most broiler chickens around the world descend from the 1948 winners of the Chicken of Tomorrow Contest?
- Source: "rbor Acres White Rocks’ white feathered birds beat the competition in the purebred category, but Red Cornish crosses from the Vantress Hatchery definitely outperformed them. And as it happens, those two breeds would eventually be crossed and become the Arbor Acre breed – whose genetics now dominate poultry farms worldwide."
"Before long, Arbor Acre’s parent stock had supplied all the major broiler companies in America."
Modern FarmerThriley (talk) 02:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
- Review underway... Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 15:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Newly created in mainspace on 13 June, the day of nomination, by moving from Draftspace.
- Length is acceptable, at just over 2,000 bytes. Correctly rated Start-class.
- No obvious close paraphrasing or copyvio noted in spot-checks of sources, but I tweaked a couple of phrases which could have been considered too close to the source.
- The image is PD because copyright has expired. If used, the hook would need to have something like (White Rock chicken pictured) appended. It is used in the article, so no issues there.
- Sourcing and referencing is fine: everything is referenced, and to decent-quality sources.
- No issues with neutrality, POV etc.
- The hook fact is sourced and interesting – in fact quite remarkable. Length of the hook is fine.
- QPQ review has been done.
An interesting story. Verified and good to go. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 19:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Luna (Feid and ATL Jacob song)
- ... that the Colombian singer Feid collaborated for the second time with an American hip hop producer in "Luna", and it was called "an effort to take the genre to the global level"?
- Source: "Feid le regaló al público un nuevo EP por fin de año: «FERXXOCALIPSIS»". Billboard Argentina (in Spanish). 2023-12-01. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
Santi (talk) 04:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 16:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Nom is three days after GA promotion, passed a GA review, all good. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: Would it be appropiate if we change the ALT due to the performance at the 2024 Copa América? Santi (talk) 04:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito: Actually, you're supposed to add an ALT1 separate from the original ALT0. Once you do that, I'll decide whether to approve and which one is preferred. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: That's what I meant, only for me adding another alt and having it approved is equivalent to changing it in some way. I'm sorry for making you think I was literally going to change what's above. Well, here it goes:
ALT1: ... that the Colombian singer Feid performed "Luna" as the only song at the 2024 Copa América opening ceremony, but there were several technical issues in the transmission? Santi (talk) 20:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Pollosito: I've checked the sourcing in the new additions, and they're in accordance with DYK guidelines. Hence, I Approve ALT1, which I prefer more. ミラP@Miraclepine 20:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: Then the hook is ready now. Thanks for picking this! Santi (talk) 21:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: That's what I meant, only for me adding another alt and having it approved is equivalent to changing it in some way. I'm sorry for making you think I was literally going to change what's above. Well, here it goes:
18th Lok Sabha
- ... that post enforcement of Women's Reservation Bill in India in the next few years, 33% of women MPs will be required although new Lok Sabha has only 14%?
§§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC). General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
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- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: Approved only for ALT hook proposed by me. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 11:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dharmadhyaksha and Mehedi Abedin: The article has a citation needed tag and needs copyediting for sentences such as "Parents of Choudhary and Sarojs have been MPs/MLAs and of Jatav have been deputy sarpanch", "The 14% strength of women in Lok Sabha is considerably short", etc. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: The tag wasn’t' there when I was inspecting the article as a reviewer. Also the article was good to me in that time and it was edited many times by many users and ip after review. Mehedi Abedin 11:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- CN tag is sorted by some editor. @AirshipJungleman29: What do you want those two sentences to be written as? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 14
editAlyssa Mendoza
- ... that boxer Alyssa Mendoza won a Golden Gloves tournament on her birthday?
- Source: USA Boxing ("It wasn’t until Golden Gloves in 2022 that she realized her skill and that the Olympics was a possibility. She fought five times in six days and won the event but also won best female boxer of the tournament. 'I fought on my birthday during the Golden Gloves, and I remember winning and going straight to my room and praying.' A passionate Mendoza stated. 'I felt like fighting on my birthday was a sign to me that I was born to do this and to be here in the spot I am today.'"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of Green Bay Packers Associated Press All-Pro selections
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment – I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 11:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Review – The article is new enough (created/moved to mainspace on 14 June 2024), long enough (1600+ characters of prose), has no copyright issues (using Earwig tool and two spot checks), and is presentable (based on a readthrough). The hook is cited, but from the source, I cannot make out whether this Golden Gloves was a single-day tournament that was held on her birthday or that it was a multiple-day tournament and that she merely won a single fight on her birthday. If it is the former, the hook is interesting enough, but if it is the latter, the hook is not interesting enough in my opinion. Could this be clarified with a source or can you suggest an alternative hook? The QPQ is not yet done. – Editør (talk) 11:55, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: The QPQ is now done, but the other issue is still open. – Editør (talk) 12:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I guess I did the QPQ but forgot to respond. @Editør: It seems to have been a multi-day tournament, but I can't tell if she won the tournament on her birthday or just a match. An ALT would be: ALT1 ... that Alyssa Mendoza won a Golden Gloves fight on her birthday? If you don't think that's interesting enough, I could try to develop a different hook. Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarifying. It looks like the DYK could be featured during the Olympics, so perhaps a hook about her Olympic qualification? There is already something about that in the article. – Editør (talk) 16:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Editør: The best I could think of would be: ALT2 ... that Alyssa Mendoza is Idaho's first Olympic boxer? Idaho Press Does that work? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that hook is supported by this source. Maybe change it into ALT3 instead? – Editør (talk) 16:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that Alyssa Mendoza was the first sportsperson from Idaho who qualified for the 2024 Summer Olympics?
- The article should probably be changed accordingly. – Editør (talk) 16:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I kind of like ALT2 better (but could live with ALT3 being promoted if ALT2 doesn't work) – the source does seem to support it:
Mendoza, who attended Middleton High, is set to become the first Olympic boxer from the Gem State.
Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)- The source is geoblocked from my location. I visited the page via a proxy, but it contained only two full sentences and not your green quote. But if that's in there ALT2 is alright with me.
- pass ALT2 – Editør (talk) 16:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Editør: The best I could think of would be: ALT2 ... that Alyssa Mendoza is Idaho's first Olympic boxer? Idaho Press Does that work? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarifying. It looks like the DYK could be featured during the Olympics, so perhaps a hook about her Olympic qualification? There is already something about that in the article. – Editør (talk) 16:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I guess I did the QPQ but forgot to respond. @Editør: It seems to have been a multi-day tournament, but I can't tell if she won the tournament on her birthday or just a match. An ALT would be: ALT1 ... that Alyssa Mendoza won a Golden Gloves fight on her birthday? If you don't think that's interesting enough, I could try to develop a different hook. Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: The QPQ is now done, but the other issue is still open. – Editør (talk) 12:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Ryan Warsofsky
- ... that ice hockey coach Ryan Warsofsky was the youngest active head coach in the ECHL, then was the youngest in the AHL, and now is the youngest in the NHL?
- Source: WCSC ("fifth youngest coach in ECHL history. He is currently the youngest active coach in the league."); The Charlotte Observer ("Warsofsky, 31, will be the youngest current head coach in the AHL"); ESPN ("Warsofsky, who at 36 is now the youngest coach in the NHL")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Please supply a QPQ. Z1720 (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- The article is long enough, new enough, and neutral with no copyright violations. The hook is directly cited, and a QPQ is complete. SL93 (talk) 01:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Benjamin Jackson (sailor)
- ... that Benjamin Jackson was likely paid at least $300 to fight in the American Civil War as Lewis Saunders?
- Source: Pages 197 and 198 of this book detail how Benjamin Jackson enlisted in the Union Navy in May 1864 as a substitute for a US citizen named Lewis Saunders, who was drafted, but had the opportunity to pay for a substitute to take his place. The fee Jackson received was likely at least $300. Because Jackson served as a substitute, he was enlisted under the Saunders name.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Space Babies
- Comment: Thank you in advance for reviewing my nomination!
Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Can't find any mention of 300 dollars in the book, accepted in good faith. TheNuggeteer (talk) 07:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 15
editBraver Angels
- ... that a co-founder of Braver Angels designed their Red/Blue political depolarization workshops based on couples therapy?
- Source: Doherty, William J., and Tai J. Mendenhall. "Braver Angels: Counteracting political polarization." In W. J. Doherty & T. J. Mendenhall, Becoming a citizen therapist: Integrating community problem-solving into your work as a healer (pp. 93–111). American Psychological Association. https://doi-org.proxy.lib.miamioh.edu/10.1037/0000378-008
- ALT1: ... that conservative and liberal participants in Braver Angels Red/Blue depolarization workshops understand each other better if they share political views with their own group first? Source: Oliver-Blackburn, Bailey M., and April Chatham-Carpenter. "‘But I don’t know if I want to talk to you’: strategies to foster conversational receptiveness across the United States’ political divide." Journal of Applied Communication Research 51, no. 1 (2023): 55-71.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: June 27-29 is their national convention, so that'd be great timing for a DYK. I'm part of a WikiEdu course on 2024 US elections and I will continue improving this article over the coming week(s). I'd especially welcome advice on the ordering and naming of sections. I'm in touch with the organization and hope to get some images for Wiki Commons and the article.
ProfGray (talk) 00:35, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
- @ProfGray: QPQ not needed. Article is long enough and recently expanded. Article is copyvio-free. ALT0 is interesting and well-sourced; I fell that ALT1 is too general. The article has one issue: there is a paragraph that lacks citations, which I tagged. Once that is fixed, the hook can be approved. Kimikel (talk) 01:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, @Kimikel:, for working on this DYK. I fixed the citation and removed the tag. (The ref was actually the same as the previous sentence, must have gotten moved around during revisions, thanks for catching that.) Please let me know if any other concerns. ProfGray (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT0. Thank you for your nomination ProfGray - Kimikel (talk) 01:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, @Kimikel:, for working on this DYK. I fixed the citation and removed the tag. (The ref was actually the same as the previous sentence, must have gotten moved around during revisions, thanks for catching that.) Please let me know if any other concerns. ProfGray (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Joan (Alexander McQueen collection)
- ... that the flaming finale of Joan by Alexander McQueen has been read as an image of violence, transcendence, resurrection, and resilience?
- Source:
- Bethune, Kate. "Encyclopedia of Collections". In Wilcox (2015), pp. 303–326. (Violence)
- Spooner, Catherine. "A Gothic Mind". In Wilcox (2015), pp. 141–158. (Transcendence/Resurrection)
- Fairer, Robert; Wilcox, Claire (2016). Alexander McQueen: Unseen. (Violence/Resurrection)
- Wilson, Andrew (2015). Alexander McQueen: Blood Beneath the Skin. (Resilience)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Homeworld: Vast Reaches
- Comment:
♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:51, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
- The article is long enough, new enough, and neutral. The hook is directly cited. I assume good faith on the references that I cannot read. A QPQ has been completed. Ready. SL93 (talk) 00:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I can send screencaps of anything if anyone does want to check the sources (GBooks has Unseen and Blood Beneath, I think). I just tweaked firery -> flaming as I think it flows more nicely. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Timeline of Partygate
- ... that after he attended a birthday party on 19 June 2020 (pictured), Boris Johnson became the first serving Prime Minister of the United Kingdom to be found to have broken the law?
- Source: "Mr Johnson is the first serving PM to be sanctioned for breaking the law." BBC News
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zhang Zhenglang
- Comment: The best time to run this would probably be 19 June, but I recognise that I may have missed the boat on that date.
A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment not review As this is an article featuring election candidates, it should not appear on the main page until after 4 July, see WP:DYKELECT. TSventon (talk) 21:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- New enough and long enough. QPQ present. This is a unique contribution to DYK as it is three paragraphs and a list; even though one paragraph does not end in an inline citation, I am treating it as a lead-section paragraph. All the list bullet points contain at least one inline citation. The hook fact checks out and is included. Image is OGL-licensed and acceptable for the Main Page. Good to go after 4 July per above. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the review, Sammi! If you've got concerns over the amount of prose in this article, I've expanded the lead with another paragraph. Let me know if you think this has improved things. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 15:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 16
editPharos (crater)
- ... that Pharos, the largest impact crater on Neptune's moon Proteus, is more than half the diameter of the moon itself? Source: https://doi.org/10.1016/S0019-1035(03)00002-2
––FormalDude (talk) 05:59, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
is more than half the diameter of the moon itself?
is somewhat confusing since you're talking about a moon. Maybe try: "is more than half the diameter of the Earth's moon?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7081:1740:67:5967:2CA0:DE70:8F88 (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)- Pretty sure "the moon itself" refers to Proteus (it's not "the Moon itself"). Anyway, I'll review this. TompaDompa (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
I think that's the point. The crater certainly cannot be larger than the body it is on.Ignore me, I missed the word half.173.207.93.240 (talk) 23:18, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Pretty sure "the moon itself" refers to Proteus (it's not "the Moon itself"). Anyway, I'll review this. TompaDompa (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article promoted to GA (though the nomination template says "created") on 7 June, and is well beyond the required minimum length. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for. There are no obvious neutrality issues. Earwig reveals no copyvio, and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. The hook is interesting, but see below about the sourcing. I don't think the meaning of "the moon itself" is unclear, but it could optionally be replaced with "Proteus itself" if others feel differently. There is no image in the nomination, but File:Proteus_(Voyager_2).jpg could be used as it is public domain (by NASA), used in the article, and clear (enough) at the resolution used on the WP:Main page. QPQ has been done. Some comments about the content:
- I have, to the best of my ability, added inline page numbers for the relatively lengthy sources. Please check if I got it right.
a diameter of around 250 km (160 mi) in diameter
– redundant.- Fixed -Ark
a small moon orbiting unusually close to Proteus
– should probably clarify that it orbits Neptune unusually close to Proteus, as opposed to orbiting Proteus at an unusually close distance.- Rephrased as
... a small moon whose orbit is unusually close to Proteus's.
-Ark
- Rephrased as
Pharos was first discovered in the Voyager 2 spacecraft's flyby of Neptune and its system of moons in 1989, being one of the first identifiable features on Proteus.
– going by the source, Proteus itself seems to have been discovered at this time too, no? That should probably be mentioned in some way.- Good catch! Briefly mentioned Proteus's discovery just ~2 months prior per its discovery announcement in an IAU circular. -Ark
The impact basin was provisionally named in a 1992 paper by Steven K. Croft after the island of Pharos
– I don't find this in the cited source? It says thatthe largest basin-like structure on Proteus has been provisionally named Pharos (Croft, 1992)
, but doesn't seem to mention anything about the etymology.- Etymology attributed to the USGS/GPN source at the end of paragraph, duplicated to end of sentence as well. -Ark
With a calculated diameter of 255 ± 12 km (158.4 ± 7.5 mi), Pharos is by far the largest known impact structure on Proteus.
– I don't find this in the cited source?- Sloppy attribution on my part, the latter portion should be attributed to Stooke 1994 p. 47
The largest crater or basin, Pharos (Figure 9), is really one of the facets already described...
. I realized I'd omitted apparently varying estimated diameters between Stooke 1994 and Croft 1992, so I've changed it toWith a diameter between 230 and 267 kilometres...
with an explanatory efn. -Ark
- Sloppy attribution on my part, the latter portion should be attributed to Stooke 1994 p. 47
this makes Pharos over half the size of the satellite itself
– I don't find this in the cited source, either. On the one hand, this size comparison is a WP:Routine calculation. On the other however, this comparison really needs to come explicitly from the sources if it is to be used for the hook.- Attributed to Croft 1992 p. 410 table on crater diameter to object radius ratio; it gives a D/R ratio of 1.22 for Pharos. -Ark
- Right, but do any of the sources point this out explicitly? It's verifiable from the sources, which is fine for the article as such, but if we are to use it for a DYK hook we need to be a bit stricter. TompaDompa (talk) 19:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify, I understand what you're getting at: a crater diameter to object radius ratio above 1 is equivalent to the crater being more than half the size of the object. Which is of course true, but (to my eye, at least) not the kind of sourcing we should base DYK hooks on. If this remains the sole point of contention when we're done with the rest, I suggest we request a second opinion on this specific issue. TompaDompa (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- In this case, I'll refer to DYK nominator FormalDude on whether or not they wish to request a second opinion. -Ark
- @ArkHyena and TompaDompa: I'm gathering that the concern is that the source doesn't explicitly say it is over twice the size and that it may violate our policy on WP:OR to say that. If the source determines a ratio of size between the objects and we can use basic math to determine that it's at least twice the size, I am sure that is not WP:OR nor WP:SYNTH and we're more than fine to say that. There's no extrapolation on our part, we're just saying the same thing in a different way. Happy to get a third opinion from someone not involved though if you're still concerned TompaDompa. ––FormalDude (talk) 09:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- In this case, I'll refer to DYK nominator FormalDude on whether or not they wish to request a second opinion. -Ark
- To clarify, I understand what you're getting at: a crater diameter to object radius ratio above 1 is equivalent to the crater being more than half the size of the object. Which is of course true, but (to my eye, at least) not the kind of sourcing we should base DYK hooks on. If this remains the sole point of contention when we're done with the rest, I suggest we request a second opinion on this specific issue. TompaDompa (talk) 20:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Right, but do any of the sources point this out explicitly? It's verifiable from the sources, which is fine for the article as such, but if we are to use it for a DYK hook we need to be a bit stricter. TompaDompa (talk) 19:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Attributed to Croft 1992 p. 410 table on crater diameter to object radius ratio; it gives a D/R ratio of 1.22 for Pharos. -Ark
Pharos is a relatively degraded crater [...] bringing Pharos's total diameter to between 500 and 550 km (310 and 340 mi).
– I have been unable to access the cited page (694) of one of the two sources cited here. Roughly the second half (fromA series of depressions
to the end of the paragraph) appears to come from the source I am able to access, suggesting that the rest (up toa peak-ring impact basin.
) is from the other one. Could you provide page 694 from Neptune and Triton for verification?- Should include material from p. 693, this is now fixed. The particular excerpt is
The most remarkable aspects of this impact basin are the roughly concentric structures of indeterminable morphology which occur at radii of up to 250 krn from the center (Fig. 5). Although these structures have been interpreted variously by different workers 694 P. C. THOMAS ET AL. (compare Croft 1992; Smith et al. 1989), there is little question that a series of approximately concentric markings is present
. Also from the other source:Several depressions surround Pharos, particularly...
-Ark- I don't see how that verifies
Pharos is a relatively degraded crater, bound by an outer incomplete scarp interrupted by subsequent impacts. The floor of Pharos appears to be domed, but nevertheless lacks a clear central peak that characterizes central-peak impact craters. However, there may be a peak-ring structure with a diameter approximately half that of Pharos's outer rim.
? TompaDompa (talk) 23:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)- Largely from p. 694 of Neptune and Triton:
Based on the shape model and on shadowing relations, topography within the large impact depression extends over at least 10 km. There is no evidence of a central peak, but there are suggestions of a peak-ring of a diameter about 1/2 that of the outer walls.
and from Fig. 10 of Stooke 1994, with the caption using "rim segments" to outline Pharos. -Ark- Alright, this seems to be at the point where I will simply have to WP:Assume good faith. TompaDompa (talk) 20:33, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Largely from p. 694 of Neptune and Triton:
- I don't see how that verifies
- Should include material from p. 693, this is now fixed. The particular excerpt is
bringing Pharos's total diameter to between 500 and 550 km (310 and 340 mi).
– that would be larger than the diameter of Proteus itself (a point also made by the cited source). Further explanation seems warranted.- Mentioned, and additionally clarified that this suggestion is unconfirmed. -Ark
a cryovolcanic origin is unlikely
– the source does not specify cryovolcanic, it says volcanic.- Proteus is an icy body (per Proteus: Geology, Shape, and Catastrophic Destruction:
Thus Proteus is a transitional object in the irregular-spherical shape spectrum for icy satellites...
), therefore any volcanic activity automatically falls under cryovolcanism. However, since it's not explained in the source, an efn or a change to the more general "geological activity" may be warranted. Which option would be more preferable? -Ark- Well, the source says
The description of this as a dome does not imply a volcanic origin. Volcanism would not be expected on an object the size of Proteus, particularly since its non-spherical shape suggests it has never experienced significant heating.
Negating "geological activity" would be making a stronger statement than the source does inasmuch as it would rule out things the source does not explicitly (not that I would expect anybody to suggest that it's the result of plate tectonics, but still). TompaDompa (talk) 23:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)- Well, alternatively other sources utilize the term "cryovolcanism" instead of simply "volcanism", and make no mention of silicate volcanism, incl. Croft 1992:
Neither probable cryovolcanic structures such as the coronae on Miranda nor smooth areas suggestive of cryovolcanic resurfacing are discernable on Proteus.
Would this be sufficient for an efn? -Ark- This is a bit outside of my wheelhouse, but that sounds like synthesis to me. TompaDompa (talk) 20:33, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, changed to volcanism to be safe. -Ark
- This is a bit outside of my wheelhouse, but that sounds like synthesis to me. TompaDompa (talk) 20:33, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, alternatively other sources utilize the term "cryovolcanism" instead of simply "volcanism", and make no mention of silicate volcanism, incl. Croft 1992:
- Well, the source says
- Proteus is an icy body (per Proteus: Geology, Shape, and Catastrophic Destruction:
As the valley appears to extend beyond the terminator in Voyager 2 imagery, it likely is longer.
– this is a much stronger statement than the cited source makes (It may extend further north along the terminator.
).- Changed to
As the valley appears to extend along the terminator in Voyager 2 imagery, it may continue further north.
-Ark
- Changed to
As violent impacts were more common early in the Solar System's history, Pharos is likely several billion years old.
– this is not what the cited source says. It saysbecause the impactor flux was higher early in the solar system's history, Hippocamp is most likely at least a few Gy old.
, which has here apparently been combined with the source'sWe hypothesize that a large impact, perhaps the Pharos event itself, released debris from Proteus into orbit around Neptune. Some of this debris settled into a stable orbit perhaps 1,000–2,000 km (a few Hill radii) interior to Proteus, and accreted into Hippocamp.
by way of WP:Improper editorial synthesis to generate the statement in the article.- Addressed; moved into the "Effects on other Neptunian moons" subsection. -Ark
Nevertheless, that Pharos's structure is relatively well-preserved
– this seems to contradict the earlierPharos is a relatively degraded crater
.- Addressed, additionally mentioning the point about resurfacing from the source
Proteus was brought near the point of significant disturbance of its preexisting surface.
-Ark
- Addressed, additionally mentioning the point about resurfacing from the source
A system of possible tectonic faults and fractures both concentric and radially oriented to Pharos
– maybe I'm missing something, but this seems to seriously overstate the confidence either cited source places in there being real (as opposed to illusory/artefactual) linear structures radial to Pharos. They speak a fair deal about concentric structures, on the other hand.- Addressed, attributing caution to Croft 1992 p. 407 -Ark
Due to Triton's retrograde—or backwards—orbital motion, fragments would impact at velocities of roughly 7.5 km/s (17,000 mph) relative to Triton
– the cited source does not say that this is the reason the impact velocity would be of this magnitude.- Addressed. -Ark
Not a DYK requirement, but WP:NOTSEEALSO suggests avoiding repeating links from the body in the "See also" section.- Removed Hippocamp from the See also section. -Ark
Ping DYK nominator FormalDude, GA nominator ArkHyena, and GA reviewer Cocobb8. TompaDompa (talk) 00:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review, TompaDompa! I'm going to give some time for ArkHyena and Cocobb8 to respond first. If these issues aren't resolved in a few days, I'll take a crack at it myself. ––FormalDude (talk) 10:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping TompaDompa! I think that the hook is interesting indeed, but I personally thing it should be "Proteus" itself instead of "the moon", so as to not have confusion with Earth's satellite. I agree with the comments for improvements you listed above! Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 13:38, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, I appreciate all the feedback! I've addressed a couple minor points. Unfortunately, I will be flying out later today, so I myself won't be able to do much more until Tuesday (UTC-7:00). Apologies if this delay causes any issues. ArkHyena (talk) 18:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- TompaDompa, most major points above should be addressed now (with two awaiting reply) :) Again, apologies for the delay, it's been a busy week for me. ArkHyena (talk) 00:32, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Second opinion requested regarding the sourcing for the hook (see above). I'll also for the record propose the slightly rephrased ALT1:
- ... that Pharos, the largest impact crater on Neptune's moon Proteus, is more than half the diameter of Proteus itself?
TompaDompa (talk) 16:33, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Routine calculations are not original research. If that's the only aspect of this nomination that requires attention, I should be able to tick it off.--Launchballer 07:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
AppleToo
- ... that after women at Apple Inc. found a 6% gender wage gap and spoke out against sexual harassment and discrimination in #AppleToo, a class action lawsuit was filed in June 2024?
- Reviewed: NA (IP address hasn't nominated before)
- Comment: Creating this template on behalf of 74.89.25.100 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
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Overall: The article does not seem neutral, considering the biased words rarely use quotations, the article also does not seem plagiarism free, with 10 percent of plagiarism, Good enough for DYK. TheNuggeteer (talk) 03:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- TheNuggeteer a comprehensive DYK review would give more specific feedback. Which words are biased or WP:WEASEL? Can you give examples so that the nominator can make the relevant improvements? And regarding copyright violation, a percentage doesn't say much. Checking earwig, I checked several examples and determined them to be false matches, or appropriately used, e.g an attributed quote. If you have specific copyright violations in mind, please explicitly mention which ones. The tooling and percentages are meant to guide the search but are not a substitute for in-depth analysis. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 10:47, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shushugah According to WP:CONTENTIOUS "racist" and "sexist" (and probably others: racial discrimination, ableism, assault) are words to watch, considering they are not confirmed (regarding the ongoing 2024 lawsuit). I recommend (also according to WP:ALLEGED) to add alleged and to put quotes beside the alleged words. TheNuggeteer (talk) 11:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, regarding the copyright, I've changed the checklist from blank to yes. Considering the mistake. TheNuggeteer (talk) 11:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- TheNuggeteer, can you check the changes? Thank you 2603:7080:AF03:34A4:3487:F0AC:7F1D:1643 (talk) 19:33, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Added alleged to spots where it was missing and reworded lawsuit to also use alleged. 24.169.15.170 (talk) 06:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
A Stroke of the Pen: The Lost Stories
- ... that early in his career Terry Pratchett had published short stories in newspapers, which remained unknown until they were posthumously discovered and republished in the 2023 book A Stroke of the Pen?
- Source: "A Stroke of the Pen: The Lost Stories – Like any collection of juvenilia, for committed fans only, but there's plenty here for them to enjoy". Kirkus Reviews. 2023. Archived from the original on 2023-10-12.
- ALT1: ... that Terry Pratchett's earliest Discworld stories were discovered by two fans and republished in 2023 in the posthumous book A Stroke of the Pen: The Lost Stories? Source: "A Stroke of the Pen: The Lost Stories". Publishers Weekly. 2023. Archived from the original on 2024-06-08.
- Reviewed:
Al83tito (talk) 04:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article - Created 16 June, nominated 19 June: 4688 words: sources reliable, including source of hook: article is presentable. Hook - meets criteria of verifiability, interest and format. Good to go.Smerus (talk) 13:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Oen Boen Ing
- ... that Dr. Oen Boen Ing used his own money to pay for some patients' prescriptions?
- Source: Lie, Ravando (2017). "Dr Oen Boen Ing: Patriot Doctor, Social Activist, and Doctor of the Poor" (PDF). Wacana. 18 (2): 478. doi:10.17510/wacana.v18i2.592. – "Whenever Dr Oen knew a patient could not afford to pay for medicine, he would sign and stamp the prescription. [...] A prescription bearing Dr Oen’s signature meant that the doctor himself would pay for it out of his own pocket."
- ALT1: ... that Dr. Oen Boen Ing, who often worked for free, was so popular that the Indonesian government was petitioned to not evacuate him during a period of violence against Chinese Indonesians? Source: Lie, Ravando (2017). "Dr Oen Boen Ing: Patriot Doctor, Social Activist, and Doctor of the Poor" (PDF). Wacana. 18 (2): 467. doi:10.17510/wacana.v18i2.592. – "The report also said that Dr Oen was able to assist more than 200 patients a day and more than half of them did not have to pay a single penny. ... When a series of anti-Tionghoa upheaval erupted in Surakarta, Dr Oen was supposed to be evacuated to a safe place by the Republican government. However, after hearing such a plan, people in Surakarta submitted a petition rejecting the idea and hoping Dr Oen would remain in Surakarta to assist the poor."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Grace A. Johnson
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC).
- Excellent article. Neat guy.
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Overall: Earwig marked ~40% for the Wacana PDF, but a spot check indicates that it's probably due to the foreign language element and particular phrasing like "fun fairs"; I didn't see any serious issues. Promoter, feel free to double-check my work; this is my first QPQ review. ThaesOfereode (talk) 21:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I reviewed Earwig, and changed "decided to move" to "moved", but most of these are proper names or direct quotations. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 17
editFrances Darlington
- ... that although sculptor Frances Darlington was known for her painted relief panels, she also designed a railway poster?
- Source: "(An Ilkley Borough Council committee was formed) ... to bring before the public the advantage of Ilkley, and in answer to an advertisement for designs in posters to be placed at various stations on the different railways, some thirty or more competed for same in colour. (After consideration) they awarded the first prize to Miss Frances Darlington, of Ilkley" - plus loads of sources in the article for her being a sculptor.
- Reviewed: Max Weil
- Comment: Created over some months in userspace, then moved to mainspace 17 June 2024
Storye book (talk) 10:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
- New article, well written and high quality (likely suitable for a GA nomination). No copyvio issues found. Hook is interesting, cited in the article, and of appropriate length. My one concern is the licensing of the image. Without the photographer's identity and thus death date, and without proof that it was first published prior to 1929, the claimed license is not valid. PD-old-assumed would be valid given that the image is >120 years old, but an appropriate US copyright tag would still be needed. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have done some further research and updated the licence. Storye book (talk) 09:13, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Storye book: Good work figuring out the photographer! Unfortunately, US copyright is tricky - proof of pre-1929 publication (or other scenarios) is still needed for it to be public domain in the US. I'm sorry to be pushy about this, but I've seen other hooks get pulled last-minute for similar issues and I don't want that to happen to you. If you're not able to find original publication information, then the hook would be fine without the image, or with one of her artworks (maybe File:Frieze by Darlington (9b) History the Sublime Hymn and Astronomy.jpg). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your comment. Here is the image that you requested as a second option.
- Note: I always do my best to cooperate on DYK templates, whether as reviewer, creator or nominator. However I also claim the right to an opinion. In this case, you will see that I am doing my best to cooperate. However, in the (nearly) 20 years that I have been a WP contributor, I have never seen a 120-year-old UK photo refused at DYK on those grounds. This image was a carte de visite, as were most photographs in the UK in 1897. They were purchased in batches and used as visiting cards, and were left at the addresses of acquaintances and businesses in the way that we leave our contact details today. Unlike our contact details today, cartes de visite were expected to be shared around by those who received them, because privacy was not an issue in the way that it is today, and cartes de visite were used as a form of advertisement. If that is not a form of publication, I don't know what is. Storye book (talk) 09:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Storye book: If it's a carte de visite, then I would consider it to have been published. I do think the fireze might be more interesting as a DYK image, since there are a lot of portraits there, but either image is just fine. Great work! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have done some further research and updated the licence. Storye book (talk) 09:13, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
1969 Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick leadership election
- ... that the 1969 leadership election for the Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick was blacklisted by the American Federation of Musicians because one of the candidates was indebted to them?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jacob Green Jackson
- Comment: Hook could be much better, but the article title is just excessively long. I'm open to rewording it upon suggestion.
B3251(talk) 13:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving hook. Article is long enough and created the same day as DYK nomination. Article is well-sourced, copyvio-free, and presentable. Hook is interesting and well-sourced, not sure if there's a better way to word it. QPQ done. Nothing else to comment on from me. Thank you for your nomination B3251! Kimikel (talk) 04:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Band of Angels (novel)
- ... that literary critic Leslie Fiedler called the novel Band of Angels "operatic in the worst sense of the word"?
- Source: Fiedler, Leslie A. (1955-09-26). "Romance in the Operatic Manner." The New Republic, vol. 26. pp. 28-30.
- ALT1: ... that Pulitzer Prize winner Robert Penn Warren wrote a novel called Band of Angels about a woman who is enslaved in order to pay her father's debts? Source: "Band of Angels" Review (1955-08-01). Bulletin from Virginia Kirkus' Service. New York: Kirkus Media, LLC.
- ALT2: ... that Robert Penn Warren's novel Band of Angels was adapted into a film starring Clark Gable and Sidney Poitier? Source: Band of Angels. Turner Classic Movies. Accessed 2024-06-16.
- Reviewed:
MattMauler (talk) 03:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good, thanks for expanding the article! I'm partial to the initial hook, but either of the ALTs will work too. ThaesOfereode (talk) 23:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Kho Ping Hoo
- ... that Kho Ping Hoo, despite writing numerous stories based on wuxia, could not read Chinese?
- Source: Sawega, Ardus M. (22 July 1994). "Asmaraman Kho Ping Hoo: "Saya Telah Iklas Pergi ..."" [Asmaraman Kho Ping Hoo: "I've Accepted My Departure ..."]. Kompas (in Indonesian). Jakarta. p. 20.
- ALT1: ... that Kho Ping Hoo disliked the film adaptations of his works, feeling that they were almost pornographic? Source: Sidharta, Myra (1994). "Asmaraman Sukowati Kho Ping Hoo (b. 1926): Writer of Cloak-and-dagger Stories in Indonesia". Archipel. 48: 163. doi:10.3406/arch.1994.3007.
- ALT2: ... that Kho Ping Hoo, a writer of martial arts stories, would work on up to four manuscripts simultaneously? Source: Sidharta, Myra (1994). "Asmaraman Sukowati Kho Ping Hoo (b. 1926): Writer of Cloak-and-dagger Stories in Indonesia". Archipel. 48: 160. doi:10.3406/arch.1994.3007.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hock burns
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
- / Leaning more towards original and ALT2; I'll leave the choice up to another reviewer. Great work here! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 18:52, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 18
editJulian Lewis (American football)
- ... that football player Julian Lewis received offers to play college football before he had attended high school?
- Source: Times-Georgian (received offers in September 2021 - played high school beginning in 2022)
- ALT1: ... that Julian Lewis was the youngest football player to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Source: Fox 5 Atlanta
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Capital Bicycle Club
- Comment: Was away yesterday and didn't get the chance to nominate it in time; requesting extension per Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines (
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
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BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Counting a 2 day extension, based on the request, the article is indeed new enough. All other criteria are met. Both hooks are verified and the information is included in the article. My only possible tweak would be to tweak ALT1 from "...youngest football player to be..." to "...youngest football player ever to be...", but that's just my opinion, and you have more experience at DYK than I do, so I trust your wording for the hook if you feel your current wording is better. Waiting on QPQ to mark this as approved. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Got a QPQ to use for this yet? Hey man im josh (talk) 20:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: Sorry for the delay! Just completed one in Template:Did you know nominations/Capital Bicycle Club. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Approved now that we got that taken care of. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: Sorry for the delay! Just completed one in Template:Did you know nominations/Capital Bicycle Club. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Oey Kim Tiang
- ... that Oey Kim Tiang translated both works of classical Chinese literature and wuxia novels into vernacular Malay?
- Source: Murtiyoso, Sutrisno (2012). "Oey Kim Tiang". In Suryadinata, Leo (ed.). Southeast Asian Personalities of Chinese Descent: A Biographical Dictionary. Institute of Southeast Asian Studies. pp. 805–807. ISBN 978-981-4345-21-7.
- ALT1 ... that Oey Kim Tiang was one of two "men with no name" to translate Jin Yong's Condor Trilogy into vernacular Malay?
- Source: "man with no name" Murtiyoso, Sutrisno (2012). "Oey Kim Tiang". In Suryadinata, Leo (ed.). Southeast Asian Personalities of Chinese Descent: A Biographical Dictionary. Institute of Southeast Asian Studies. p. 806. ISBN 978-981-4345-21-7.; two men: Suryadinata, Leo (2013). "Post-War Kung Fu Novels in Indonesia – A Preliminary Survey". In Salmon, Claudine (ed.). Literary Migrations: Traditional Chinese Fiction in Asia (17th-20th Centuries). Singapore: Institute of Southeast Asian Studies. p. 412. ISBN 978-981-4414-32-6.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
- Long enough. New enough. Inline citations throughout. AGF as the sources are not online. No copyright issues (5% to 8% similarity per Earwig). Both hooks are cited but I find ALT1 more interesting (as someone who grew up reading Burmese translations of the Condor Trilogy and many other wuxia novels and as a fan of Spaghetti Westerns.) Problem is: ALT1 is not clearly stated in the article itself. Is Oey An Siok supposed to be the second man with no name? Please clarify. Hybernator (talk) 23:57, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Hybernator. The article has "[Oey Kim Tiang] used a variety of pseudonyms, with ... Boe Beng Tjoe ("the man with no name"), ... attested during this period. Footnote C adds "Oey An Siok also published several translations by himself, borrowing the pseudonym Boe Beng Tjoe". I avoided including the translation twice, but it's the same pseudonym. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks for the clarification. (And thanks for writing the article.)
- for ALT1. Hook is interesting and cited. GTG. Hybernator (talk) 16:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Traceable Radiometry Underpinning Terrestrial and Helio Studies
- ... that TRUTHS will be a satellite that allows for precise calibration of Earth observation data from other satellites?
- Reviewed:
Ennegma (talk) 11:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but "that many reports and academic publications were produced by Fox and collaborators in order to obtain both scientific and financial support for truths?" would make a cracking April Fools' hook.--Launchballer 13:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- very clever Launchballer, that would indeed be a fun suggestion thank you! And, if we were closer to April now I would have liked to recommend it. But on balance I’d prefer to have this published sooner rather than later - this is my first proposal for a DidYouKnow after all. Ennegma (talk) 08:35, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. Full review needed.--Launchballer 08:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Ennegma: This article needs some work before nomination approval. Article is long enough and was created 2 days before nomination. Article is well-sourced and presentable. Hook is interesting and sourced. However, the article has issues with copyvio. I understand some of that is due to direct quotes, but there are a lot of sentences lifted directly from other articles that could be phrased and arranged differently, see https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Traceable_Radiometry_Underpinning_Terrestrial_and_Helio_Studies. Please let me know if this is addressed - Kimikel (talk) 23:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello user:Kimikel. I have made some minor adjustments to sections that were highlighted in the report you linked. However, there are several things that the Earwig tool highlights which are technical terms (e.g. "a primary standard cryogenic radiometer"; official names/proper nouns (e.g. "Cryogenic Solar Absolute Radiometer (CSAR)"; or direct quotes to either scientific descriptions (e.g. "constrain and improve retrieval algorithms") or important but non-encyclopedic-style phrases (e.g. "the heart of the calibration system"). Most importantly, there is a blockquote which describes the two primary objectives of the whole satellite - and because these sentences are scientifically specific, I didn't think it would be appropriate to paraphrase them or abridge them more than I already have. I note that User:CFA left a note on the article's talkpage two weeks ago that says "Note to future editors: Earwig scores high because of the large block quote in the Science section. There are no actual copyvios." I hope that is sufficient adjustment and explanation for this review process. Thank you.
Ennegma (talk) 12:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Approving hook. I was aware of the block quote and scientific names contributing to the earwig, but your latest edit removed some of the phrasings that I was talking about. This article is now good to go. Thank you for you nomination Ennegma - Kimikel (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Steve Elcock
- ... that Steve Elcock's Symphony no. 6 is dedicated to "the everlasting execration of self-serving politicians, the obscenely rich and the system that allows them to remain so"?
- Source: Whitehouse, Richard (2021). "A Symphonic Odyssey", in Musical Opinion, issue 1528 (July-September 2021), p.8
Smerus (talk) 13:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
- @Smerus: Article is long enough and created same day as DYK nomination. Article is well-sourced and copyvio-free. The hook is interesting and sourced, although the source is inaccessible. QPQ done. There is an issue with the article; namely, the lead section is insufficient for an article of this length. Once this is fixed, the hook is approvable. Kimikel (talk) 01:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel:. Thanks for your comments. I have now expanded the lead as you suggest and hope that you may now find it appropriate.Smerus (talk) 16:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go. Thank you for the nomination Smerus - Kimikel (talk) 17:35, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel:. Thanks for your comments. I have now expanded the lead as you suggest and hope that you may now find it appropriate.Smerus (talk) 16:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Helianthus devernii
- ... that the newly discovered and critically imperiled Red Rock sunflower (Helianthus devernii) can only be found around two desert springs located in Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area? Source: NatureServe, USGS
- ALT1: ... that the newly discovered and critically imperiled Red Rock sunflower (Helianthus devernii) can only be found in an area less than an acre at Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area? Source: BioOne
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Article created by Mezbalogh; article updated by Alalch E. and MtBotany.
Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 04:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Classicwiki, I've had a quick look at this one. I've made a couple of changes to improve grammar but there are two sections that need citations for the article to be eligible for DYK. Let me know if you can fix these and I will come back to complete the review. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 09:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow, some of the information had to be stripped, but tried to address the CN tags the best I could. Let me know what you think. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 04:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mezbalogh, @Alalch E., @MtBotany, do you know the source of the new count in 2022 which found approximately 900 individuals? I cannot find the survey. Right now I only find sources for the ~400 count. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 18:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Classicwiki Mezbalogh was the editor who added that information. It was unclear where they got it from. I left it in while looking for a good source, but was not able to find the 900. I did find a presentation from Nevada Division of Natural Heritage saying 725. I've updated the article to reflect this. That work okay? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Mezbalogh is the creator of this article and an entirely new editor unfamiliar with Wikipedia policy who had added some of their (explicitly) original research to the original version and first few revisions. So they probably got it from their individual, original, research.—Alalch E. 23:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Classicwiki Mezbalogh was the editor who added that information. It was unclear where they got it from. I left it in while looking for a good source, but was not able to find the 900. I did find a presentation from Nevada Division of Natural Heritage saying 725. I've updated the article to reflect this. That work okay? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks all, changes made look good. Classicwiki, I will complete the DYK review: Article created 18 June and is of good length; sources used look to be reliable for the content cited; I don't have access to all the sources but didn't find any issue with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck; hooks are interesting and stated in the article (I amended ALT0 to "around two desert springs" as there is a third cluster nearby), AGF on sourcing to journal I don't have access to; image is good and properly licensed; a QPQ is not required in this case. Should be good to go. I just had one remaining query on a part of the text that discusses recreational use of the area and links this to invasive weeds, which I couldn't find in the source. Once this is sorted it will be good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow, I added some citations that these noxious weeds are a problem in Spring Mountains and Clark County area, where the plant is located. Tweaked the sentence. Let me know if there is anything else I need to address. Thx, --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 05:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Classicwiki, I've given it a tick. I removed a bit about recreation that I couldn't find in the source, feel free to re-add if you can support it - Dumelow (talk) 07:33, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Fu Wuji
- ... that Fu Wuji's Fuhou gujin zhu includes information on everything from astrological signs to the dimensions of imperial tombs?
- Source: B.J. Mansvelt Beck, "The Treatises of Later Han" pp.129-130
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Overall: The article is okay, and the hook is interesting, the source is a book source but accepted. TheNuggeteer (talk) 11:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
WUEC
- ... that the radio station at the University of Wisconsin–Eau Claire would close in the middle of the day so students could attend tasks and carry out production work? Source: https://www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/article/leader-telegram-campus-radio-climbs-up-t/149403265/
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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Articles created/expanded on June 19
editMelani Budianta
- ... that the Indonesian scholar Melani Budianta taught street children with the Ursuline order?
- Source: Hartiningsih, Maria; Pambudy, Ninuk M (4 February 2006). "Persona: Melani Budianta Mendobrak Batas-batas" [People: Melani Budianta, Breaking Barriers]. Kompas (in Indonesian). p. 12.
- ALT1: ... that Melani Budianta used street gangs and Moonies in Los Angeles to reflect on the state of democracy in Indonesia? Source: "Alumni & Voices: Melani Budianta". American Indonesian Exchange Foundation. 8 February 2022. Archived from the original on 10 June 2024. Retrieved 19 June 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Melani Budianta's family only allowed books and crafts as birthday presents? Source: Pandu, Pradipta (24 August 2023). "Persona: Melani Budianta Mendobrak Batas-batas" [People: Melani Budianta, Breaking Barriers]. Kompas (in Indonesian). Archived from the original on 19 June 2024. Retrieved 19 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gary Orfield
- Comment: I have a PDF copy of Hartiningsih and Pambudy, if needed.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving ALT1 and ALT2 on good faith, pref. ALT2. Article is long enough and new enough. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and free from copyvio. QPQ done. Hooks are sourced; in my opinion, ALT2 is the most interesting and accessible for a casual reader. Hooks are all sourced with Indonesian sources. Overall good to go, thank you for your nomination Chris Woodrich - Kimikel (talk) 13:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Judy Kellogg Markowsky
- ... that American ornithologist Judy Kellogg Markowsky died afer disappearing in the river that she worked to protect during her life?
- Source: "Bangor-area naturalist receives lifetime environmental award". Bangor Daily News. October 13, 2011. Retrieved June 19, 2024. and Ricker, Nok-Noi (August 5, 2011). "Body of well-known Hampden naturalist found in river". Bangor Daily News. Retrieved June 19, 2024.
SL93 (talk) 23:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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Articles created/expanded on June 20
editThird Josef Hoop cabinet
- ... that the Third Josef Hoop cabinet was formed as a coalition government following the Anschluss?
- Source: Multiple, see inline
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/ChinaAngVirus disinformation campaign
- Comment: Hook is open to change.
TheBritinator (talk) 22:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
- @TheBritinator: Article is long enough and improved to good article a day before DYK nomination. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and free from copyvio. QPQ done. The only problem I have is the hook, which I think depends entirely on prior history knowledge, and even then is not especially eye-catching. Please let me know what you think of these alternate hooks:
- ALT1: ...that the Third Josef Hoop cabinet unsuccessfully negotiated the transfer of a mountain to Switzerland?
- ALT2: ...that the Third Josef Hoop cabinet survived an attempted coup from a domestic Nazi party?
- Kimikel (talk) 01:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel:, these are both hooks that have been used on their respective articles already, but I am not opposed to them if it doesn't cause any issues. If so, then I would say go with ALT2 as it is more catching, but either is good. By the way, I noticed that you did not leave me a message on my talk page with the provided template, so I didn't notice your review sooner. Please do that for future reference. Thanks. TheBritinator (talk) 14:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT2: Good catch on the hook reuse, I apologize for missing that and also for not posting on your talk page. I think the Ellhorn hook is very close to that article's hook, but since the putsch DYK never ran, I don't see an issue there. Thank you for the nomination TheBritinator - Kimikel (talk) 18:29, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oh that's right, the putsch one didn't run and was put on OTD instead. Shouldn't be an issue then. Thanks for the review. TheBritinator (talk) 20:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT2: Good catch on the hook reuse, I apologize for missing that and also for not posting on your talk page. I think the Ellhorn hook is very close to that article's hook, but since the putsch DYK never ran, I don't see an issue there. Thank you for the nomination TheBritinator - Kimikel (talk) 18:29, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel:, these are both hooks that have been used on their respective articles already, but I am not opposed to them if it doesn't cause any issues. If so, then I would say go with ALT2 as it is more catching, but either is good. By the way, I noticed that you did not leave me a message on my talk page with the provided template, so I didn't notice your review sooner. Please do that for future reference. Thanks. TheBritinator (talk) 14:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Gerhard Klingenberg
... that Gerhard Klingenberg, who stepped in to play Camille in Büchner's Dantons Tod at the Burgtheater in Vienna at age 18, managed the theatre from 1971 to 1976?Source: [12]- Reviewed: to come
Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough and long enough. Sourcing is proper; everything is in German so generally AGF on the sources. QPQ is still pending. I did not find any close paraphrasing. Article was on ITN's Recent Deaths section so it remains eligible for DYK. The issue is the hook: it fails WP:DYKINT as it is reliant on specialist information that general audiences may not have (a reader who doesn't know that the Burgtheater is Austria's main theater might not get the importance, and why is Camille singled out?). It's also too complicated and has too many facts; ideally it should focus on only one primary fact. There's also the issue raised by 4meter4 in the past that these "actor stepping into roles" instances are not actually that interesting or unusual as that's what understudies tend to do. Given that WT:DYK is not a fan of these "people doing their job" hooks, here are some possible alternatives; I've struck the original hook due to the issues raised above.
- ALT1 ... that Gerhard Klingenberg took on his stage name due to a prohibition on students at his school taking up acting?
- ALT2 ... that during his tenure as the manager of Austria's Burgtheater from 1971 to 1976, Gerhard Klingenberg often directed plays with analogies to a divided Europe?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 - in my humble opinion - is trivia which neglects his importance in the theatre world, and focuses on the Austrian bureaucracy. A you aware that this man recently died?
- ALT2 has it, but is very general in the second fact. Why not mention the precise play, which is unusual? Stepping in at 18 seems more interesting to me than the analogies, and more interesting than taking on a stage name.
- I hate to name a play in English that was played in German, but for our crowd's sake:
ALT0a: ... that Gerhard Klingenberg (pictured), who stepped in at Vienna's Burgtheater at age 18 to play Camille in Büchner's Danton's Death, managed the theatre from 1971 to 1976?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)- The issue with ALT0 isn't whether or not the play's title is in German or English, but rather the nature of the hook itself. Multiple editors within the DYK community have objected to these "performer plays role" hooks as they're basically about these people doing their job, which isn't what DYK is looking for. ALT0/ALT0a, as mentioned earlier, also fails WP:DYKINT because, again, the hook is heavily reliant on specialist information or context and thus general readers won't get it. I have struck ALT0a as well for the same reasons. You need to propose a completely different angle here, or agree to ALT1/ALT2, because otherwise the nomination will be failed for lack of a suitable hook. To answer your question about Klingenberg's death, him dying recently does not change the issues with the proposal. Just because he died recently doesn't mean a hook about him should be exempt from DYKINT. Is there a problem if ALT1 is "trivia"? Because when you think about it, DYK hooks are supposed to be trivia: that's why they're called hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- We will have to disagree. ALT1 boils down to "he took a stage name" which is trivial and nothing personal, no achievement. Better no DYK than that. I learned "only good about the dead", and I understand that it is "Did you know ...? interested in passing knowledge. I also claim that a play title such as "Dantons Death" is interesting, and that ALT0b is less interesting.
ALT0b: ... that Gerhard Klingenberg (pictured), who stepped in at Vienna's Burgtheater at age 18, managed the theatre from 1971 to 1976? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC)- There seems to be a fundamental disagreement about DYK's purpose because how DYK hooks are meant to be written, per DYKINT, is if they are interesting to a broad audience. That is, if they are likely to be perceived as interesting by non-specialist readers. Highlighting a person or subject's achievements or even claim to fame is at best a secondary reason but not a primary one and definitely not something that is explicitly or even implicitly suggested by the guidelines. The opposition to "trivia" here is surprising considering that, in practice, DYK is intended to promote "trivia". That's why there's so much emphasis on highlighting unusual or eye-catching facts, even if that isn't what the subject is best known for. There is a reason why DYK nominators and reviewers generally prefer hooks that go "DYK that Winston Churchill was an amateur bricklayer?" and not "DYK that Winston Churchill was a British Prime Minister?"
- In any case, ALT0c is rejected for the same reason as ALT0a and ALT0b: it is reliant on specialist knowledge and the average readership will not get why it is unusual or interesting ("why is it important that Klingenberg managed the Burgtheater for five years?", "how is his tenure significant or unusual in any way?", "what's the Burgtheater and why is it important?", "what does "step in at age 18 mean?", or "is stepping in at age 18 even unusual or interesting?") If you would prefer the nomination fail rather than agree to a hook that targets general readership then that's your prerogative but ALT0's hook fact by itself simply does not meet DYKINT and thus cannot be used. If you cannot propose a completely different angle from ALT0 and/or accept ALT1/ALT2, then the nomination will be marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Before having read your replay I asked an independent user t look into this. I have no time today, travelling. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- After reading AirshipJungleman29's talk page, maybe an alternate wording of ALT2 could work as well. At the very least I'm certain it will attract more attention to the article than any hook involving him stepping in for a role or any hook about any of his specific roles. Such an angle could work given that the context involved (history) is a lot more accessible than European theatre. If the goal is to promote Klingenberg and allow more readers to click on the article, this angle might do the trick:
- ALT3 ... that Gerhard Klingenberg, who decided to leave East Germany following the construction of the Berlin Wall, directed plays with analogies to a divided Europe?
- It does lose the mention of the Burgtheater but that is to prevent information overload and allow a direct focus on the main point; I could propose a slight revision that includes it if you wish. I really don't think the "stepped in" angle is going to withstand scrutiny given how WT:DYK has often raised complaints about role hooks. My main concern with this angle is the context of "analogies to a divided Europe"; the wording is rather vague if the plays themselves were the ones that had analogies, or he directed them in such a way that he incorporated said analogies, but I guess that can be worked out in the article itself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the offer, but the greater miracle in his career was that Brecht made this Austrian come to East Berlin, and on that background, the way back seems less dramatic, just a way home more or less, not - as the hook would make me believe - as an East German dissident. I am also not sure that he directed these plays, - he was great - as almost all obituaries say in other words - in attracting the most wanted European directors of the time to do the actual directing job. I see coming that you say that our readers don't know these directors, if you think that they don't know the most important drama house for the German language, and would not be willing to look it up.
ALT4: ... that after a career as actor and director at Austrian theatres, Gerhard Klingenberg (pictured) followed Bertolt Brecht's invitation to work for his Berliner Ensemble in East Berlin? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)- The issue here again is always the reliance on specialist information. Most readers do not know who Brecht or the Berliner Ensemble are and thus would not have the required context to appreciate the hook. It's been repeated to you many many many times already, but what keeps happening is that you insist on hooks that primarily appeal to you and not to the general public. You are an expert in European classical music and theatre and most readers are not, so the goal is to appeal to the lowest-common denominator and target the widest audience, not the smallest. ALT3 is probably not the ideal option (I actually somewhat prefer ALT1 myself), but it would almost certainly get more attention than ALT4. I understand you deeply care about these people and their circumstances, but the way things are going, you are really just writing hooks for yourself and not for others, something that AirshipJungleman29 noted in your discussion with him. In any case, I have struck ALT4 for failing to meet WP:DYKINT as relying too much on knowledge or context that the vast majority of readers do not have. Again, I get your goal is to educate readers about these subjects, but again, that's the goal of the article, not the hook. The hook's goal is to attract readers to read the article, and then they will learn. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Pinging again due to a typo. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well of coure ALT3 is more interesting. If Gerda really wants, she can post ALT3 and ALT4 at WT:DYK and ask which one is more interesting, but like with Anna Nekhames we all know how that will go, for probably the thirtieth time at this point. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the offer, but the greater miracle in his career was that Brecht made this Austrian come to East Berlin, and on that background, the way back seems less dramatic, just a way home more or less, not - as the hook would make me believe - as an East German dissident. I am also not sure that he directed these plays, - he was great - as almost all obituaries say in other words - in attracting the most wanted European directors of the time to do the actual directing job. I see coming that you say that our readers don't know these directors, if you think that they don't know the most important drama house for the German language, and would not be willing to look it up.
- The issue with ALT0 isn't whether or not the play's title is in German or English, but rather the nature of the hook itself. Multiple editors within the DYK community have objected to these "performer plays role" hooks as they're basically about these people doing their job, which isn't what DYK is looking for. ALT0/ALT0a, as mentioned earlier, also fails WP:DYKINT because, again, the hook is heavily reliant on specialist information or context and thus general readers won't get it. I have struck ALT0a as well for the same reasons. You need to propose a completely different angle here, or agree to ALT1/ALT2, because otherwise the nomination will be failed for lack of a suitable hook. To answer your question about Klingenberg's death, him dying recently does not change the issues with the proposal. Just because he died recently doesn't mean a hook about him should be exempt from DYKINT. Is there a problem if ALT1 is "trivia"? Because when you think about it, DYK hooks are supposed to be trivia: that's why they're called hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have come in to bang heads together, as usual (that expression means making two children shake hands and make friends), and to support one of the hooks.
- Firstly, Narutolovehinata5 and Gerda Arendt: the DYK hook process, as you know, is primarily about truth, then about appropriateness as a hook, and then about compromise. Most of what you both say, here, is about a reluctance to compromise. Compromise takes two to tango. You are as bad as each other. Everyone has to compromise, not just the other guy.
- So I suggest ALT2, (with picture if promoter agrees) because (1) Narutolovehinata5 proposed it, and (2) Gerda Arendt accepted its truth, and did not totally dispute it. Also, to move this nom on, I offer one of my spare reviews: Jake Bates. Storye book (talk) 15:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Storye book, I understand your intentions and want to help Gerda as much as possible. However, you tend to comment on her nominations whenever they encounter issues and particularly after Gerda messages you (see for example her message inviting you to this nomination). This can give an impression, whether fairly or unfairly, of canvassing to other editors, especially when it is known around DYK circles that you are the editor closest and most sympathetic to Gerda. My suggestion would be that, to avoid concerns about canvassing, you avoid commenting on her nominations if Gerda specifically asked you to do so; however, it might be safer for you to do so out of your own volition, as in commenting on her noms independently of any ping or message. To Gerda, I would also suggest avoiding messaging Storye book specifically regarding your nominations, again to avoid concerns about canvassing. Asking for a second opinion from other editors is not inherently problematic, but when it's usually the same editor, and one known to be sympathetic towards you, that could give others the impression of canvassing, which we'd really want to avoid.
- In addition, the QPQ donation is appreciated, but I would advise refraining from doing so in the future except as a last resort. As Gerda is DYK's most prolific editor, she should be very much aware that DYK requires a QPQ within a week of the nomination and a message about it. She should be allowed to fulfill the request on her own, and donating QPQs whenever she forgets to do so could be seen as unfair to other nominators whose nominations get stuck or rejected due to a lack of QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please note that I said "just look" in my last message to Storye book. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- The comment wasn't about just this nomination but rather the general pattern. Over the years it has been common for you to message Storye book in particular whenever other editors have concerns regarding your nominations and hooks. If it was just a one-time instance, it probably would have been okay, but it wasn't just a one-time thing, and it's a pattern that it's Storye book specifically that you message rather than messaging no editor in particular or even messaging a variety of editors. I understand both of you have good intentions and Gerda wants help from someone knowledgeable, but the focus on Storye book specifically can lead to the impression, whether fair or not, that canvassing is involved. This is especially considering Storye book tends to be more sympathetic towards Gerda's hooks and nominations compared to other DYK regulars.
- To be on the safe side, my suggestion for Gerda would be that, whenever you want a second opinion or help, you message multiple editors or at least a variety of them rather than just Storye book (the earlier ping to B was a good start, but B may not have been the best option given he is not a DYK regular and has been largely inactive lately). For Storye book, again my suggestion would be to avoid whenever possible commenting on a Gerda nom if she specifically asked you to do so; it might be safer to comment on them independently regardless of any pings or message if desired. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- We had an edit conflict, and I have no time to read your last comment, sorry. There's real life. - What I wrote:
- I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Soldiers' and Sailors' Arch. - Klingenberg, an article nominated for deletion after he died (!), found some interest already, and it was perhaps crazy of me to hope for a bit more interest via DYK. RD has a way of review (by multiple people, looking for referencing and facts) that works better for me. Today is Kafka's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Approving ALT2 (with image if promoter agrees).Storye book (talk) 17:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Your above long and detailed comment is wholly inappropriate. As you have yourself acknowledged, I have not responded in this instance on Gerda's behalf. It was your ALT2 which I chose, and I recommended it as it stood, unaltered. So, how dare you ask me to get off Gerda's nominations? In no way have I on this occasion sided with her. It was quite clear that I asked you both, equally, to compromise. We are all here to move these nominations along. That is what I was trying to do, for the sake of WP, and that is what you should be doing, instead of attacking other people and pretending that people are ganging up on different sides. What on earth is wrong with ALT2? You wrote it. I have approved it. Why not accept it, and move on to another nom. Storye book (talk) 17:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please note that I said "just look" in my last message to Storye book. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Dorothy Dworkin
- ... that immigrant midwife Dorothy Dworkin (pictured) is considered the matriarch of Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital?
- Source: Lesley Barsky, From Generation to Generation: A History of Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital pages 9–10: "The first nurse in charge of the dispensary was Dora "Dorothy" Goldstick, who was to become a driving force behind Mount Sinai Hospital. Born in Windau, Latvia, in 1890, Goldstick had gone ... to train in midwifery. After receiving her diploma from the Medical State Board of Ohio in 1909, she returned to Toronto" and page 131 "with the assembly of hospital matriarch Dorothy Dworkin and a group of escorts"
Reidgreg (talk) 13:24, 20 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 14:36, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Review – The article is new enough (promoted to GA on 20 June 2024), is long enough (8000+ characters of prose), has no copyright issues, and is presentable (both per Talk:Dorothy Dworkin/GA1). The hook is cited and interesting. Although the linked source is not available without an account, I was able to confirm the information by other sources [13] [14], so I don't see an issue here. The image is properly licensed, clear in a smaller size, and used in the article. I thought the most remarkable fact from the article are the thousands of people that she helped immigrate from Europe to Canada to escape the Holocaust, did you consider this for the hook? – Editør (talk) 16:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I did, but I wasn't sure that 'helped' was strong enough for a good hook. (Her husband and brother-in-law also participated with the travel business, though she is usually singled out as the "rainmaker" who 'made things happen'). Anyways, I thought someone might have a problem with independent sources being a little weak on the specifics. Following is one I'd considered (using 'hundreds' for the 1930s, probably needs some rephrasing). – Reidgreg (talk) 23:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that during the 1930s, immigrant midwife Dorothy Dworkin (pictured) ran a labour hall, raised funds for a hospital expansion, published a newspaper, and helped hundreds of European Jews escape the Holocaust?
- I see, thanks. I think ALT1 lacks focus, so I prefer the original hook.
- pass the original hook – Editør (talk) 00:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
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editEmmanuella Atora
- ... that Olympic taekwondo practitioner Emmanuella Atora described her career as "I hit people for a living"?
- Source: Gabon Media Time ("« Je tape les gens pour vivre », c’est en ces termes qu’Emmanuella Atora Eyeghe a décidé de célébrer sa qualification directe le plus grand rendez-vous d’athlétisme au monde." translated "'I hit people for a living', these are the words that Emmanuella Atora Eyeghe decided to celebrate her direct qualification for the biggest athletics event in the world.")
- ALT1: ... that Emmanuella Atora hits people for a living? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Donch
- Comment: ALT1 is a quirky version of the initial hook. Hoping to get this featured around the time she competes at the Olympics; see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Discussion_on_Olympics for more information.
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Overall: I prefer ALT1 but it may be too vague when placed alongside the other Olympic hooks, although that's probably the point and that's why I like it. I'll leave it to the promoter's discretion, as both hooks essentially say the same thing. French-language sources were checked for close paraphrasing; no issues arose. Waiting on the QPQ. Yue🌙 03:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Yue: QPQ done. My preference is for ALT1 also, though I guess its ultimately up to the promoter. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: My review has been modified to reflect this. This nomination has been approved and will await promotion. Yue🌙 17:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Evann Girault
- ... that Evann Girault is Niger's first Olympic fencer?
- Source: L'Autre Republicain (translated: "He made a firm commitment to qualify Niger for the first time at the Olympic Games in Fencing.") / L'Autre Republicain (translated: "Evann Abba Girault, qualified for the Olympic Games in Paris")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Microhodotermes viator
- Comment: Hoping to get this featured around the time he competes at the Olympics; see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Discussion_on_Olympics for more information.
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Overall: French-language sources were checked for close paraphrasing; no issues arose. Waiting on the QPQ. Yue🌙 03:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Yue: QPQ done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: My review has been modified to reflect this. This nomination has been approved and will await promotion. Yue🌙 17:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Union for Democracy and Social Progress (Democratic Republic of the Congo)
- ... that after the Union for Democracy and Social Progress won the 2018 Congolese general election, its presidential candidate was criticized as unproven, inexperienced and lacking his father's charisma?
- Source: Burke, Jason (11 January 2019). "Why Kabila may be real victor of DRC's contested election". The Guardian. Retrieved 21 June 2024.
Tshisekedi is the leader of the Union for Democracy and Social Progress (UDPS), DRC's oldest and largest opposition party. Critics say he is unproven, inexperienced and lacks the charisma of his father. 'His father was a man of the country. The son is very limited,' Valentin Mubake, former secretary-general of Tshisekedi's party told the Guardian last month.
Yue🌙 22:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces: Thank you for taking the time to do this review! I will note that I did have to do a QPQ, which I did. You can double check and, if you see no issues, please modify your review to reflect this. Cheers. Yue🌙 21:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Yue: Don't mind me, I actually saw your QPQ, thank you for notifying me. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
185 Montague Street
- ... that just over a decade after 185 Montague Street was completed, one tenant proposed tearing down the building's upper stories? Source: "Brooklyn Offices in New Ownership; Webb & Knapp to Change 185 Montague St. Under Lease to Bank of Manhattan". The New York Times. October 14, 1944
- ALT1: ... that 185 Montague Street in New York City was once called "one of the jazziest little Art Deco skyscrapers in town"? Source: Morrone, Francis. An Architectural Guidebook to Brooklyn. Gibbs Smith. p. 146
- ALT2: ... that one critic likened the design of 185 Montague Street in New York City to the horns of Count Basie's orchestra? Source: Morrone, Francis. An Architectural Guidebook to Brooklyn. Gibbs Smith. p. 146
- ALT3: ... that 185 Montague Street in New York City was nearly fully occupied upon its completion, despite high vacancy rates in nearby buildings? Source: "New Bank to Serve Brooklyn Heights; Will Open This Week in Twelve-Story Title Guaranty Building". The New York Times. March 30, 1930.
- Reviewed: Michael Wettlaufer
- Comment: more hooks later
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Overall: Good work overall. Of these hooks, I prefer ALT3 (the contrast of being nearly full in a high-vacancy area stands out) and ALT1 (the connection may be clearer with an explicit mention of Art Deco style). Epicgenius, did you still want to propose additional hooks for consideration? Complex/Rational 15:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @ComplexRational: Thanks for the review. On further thought, I don't think I have any other hooks in mind. Epicgenius (talk) 15:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
181 Montague Street
- ... that during the construction of 181 Montague Street in New York City, each of the building's columns was pulled by 14 horses? Source: "Big Columns of American Stone". Stone. Vol. 36, no. 2. February 1, 1915. p. 77.
- ALT1: ... that the columns of 181 Montague Street had to be installed using derricks even though the building was just two stories high? Source: "Peoples Trust Company in Handsome New Home". The Brooklyn Daily Eagle. March 25, 1906. p. 64.
- ALT2: ... that when 181 Montague Street was built, it was called one of Brooklyn's most elaborate structures? Source: "Peoples Trust Company in Handsome New Home". The Brooklyn Daily Eagle. March 25, 1906. p. 64.
- Reviewed: WOTF-TV
- Comment: more hooks later
Epicgenius (talk) 15:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: TheNuggeteer (talk) 12:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Charlemagne
- ... that Charlemagne owned an elephant which he received as a gift from the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid?
- Source: Paul E. Dutton, Charlemagne's Mustache: And Other Cultural Clusters of a Dark Age, pp. 59-61
- Reviewed:
Seltaeb Eht (talk) 23:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The hook and the article have no problems; this is my second review, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. TheNuggeteer (talk) 03:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Banner in the Sky
- ... that Banner in the Sky inspired a Canadian dentist to climb the Matterhorn?
- Source: "The book stuck with Smith, a local dentist, for so long that a few weeks ago, at age 62, he climbed the Matterhorn himself." [15]
- ALT1: ... that Banner in the Sky was inspired by the first ascent of the Matterhorn? Source: "In 1865, an Englishman by the name of Edward Whymper became the first man to climb the ... Matterhorn. ... Ullman took inspiration from this real-life account when ... [writing] Banner in the Sky." [16]
- ALT2: ... that before writing Banner in the Sky Ullman climbed the Matterhorn with his son? Source: "Ullman has come up with a superb mountain-climbing story for young readers. The author and his son recently climbed the Matterhorn" [17]
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TipsyElephant (talk) 12:10, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- I think I misunderstood what to enter for the author. Andrewa created the redirect and then I converted it into an article. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:25, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The source stated at both the dyk and the article needs a specific login to a school/institution. This is my third review, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. TheNuggeteer (talk) 03:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 22
editAsphendou Cave petroglyphs
- ... that petroglyphs from western Crete may depict extinct Candiacervus deer from the Palaeolithic? Source: Palaeolithic cave art from Crete, Greece
- ALT1: ... that the creators of the original Asphendou Cave petroglyphs had their work carved over by later artists? Source: Palaeolithic cave art from Crete, Greece
- ALT2: ... that the key needed access to the Asphendou Cave petroglyphs is kept by someone in a nearby village? Source: 11,000-Year-Old Greek Cave Art Found on Crete
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Esther Tailfeathers
- Comment: Did you know that Palaeolithic art in Crete was shown no respect by Bronze Age artists? Unless of course, adding more to it was a sign of respect. Alternative hook suggestions are welcome.
CMD (talk) 14:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- Ooh, I've never read anything about Paleolithic Crete before! I like this a lot. I like the first hook; it checks out from the source, and the article seems in good shape (eligible, long enough, no evidence of copyvio.) QPQ checks out. Seems GTG! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
James Alison Glover
- ... that in World War I, British physician James A. Glover found that "spacing-out" beds prevented epidemics of meningitis in the military?
- Reviewed: Monumite
Whispyhistory (talk) 06:03, 29 June 2024 (UTC).
- @Whispyhistory: QPQ done. Article is long enough and created 7 days before DYK nomination. Article is presentable and copyvio-free. Hook is interesting and well-sourced. Article has an issue with sourcing: there is an unsubstantiated claim in the lede that is not mentioned anywhere else in the article. Once this is fixed, the nomination can be approved. Kimikel (talk) 02:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
@Kimikel: please check now. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Approving nomination. Good to go, thank you Whispyhistory - Kimikel (talk) 20:37, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
WZZM
- ... that a Michigan TV station rescued and restored a weather ball (pictured) that had been sitting for years in a scrapyard? Source: Heibel, Lawrence R. (March 28, 2002). "Weather ball may sit on pole by station: WZZM TV-13 is seeking a zoning variance to build the new home for the stainless steel sphere". The Grand Rapids Press. p. A25. (Available upon request)
- ALT1: ... that the owner of a Michigan TV station ordered its news director out of bed to give him personal election reports? Source: https://search.proquest.com/docview/216739809
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sud 777
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article nominated two days after promotion to GA. Passes Copyvio check. Picture is free use. QPQ done. AGF on ALT0 offline source. I prefer ALT0, it's more interesting. Riley1012 (talk) 21:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Aid climbing
- ... that in 1993, Lynn Hill became the first person to free climb The Nose (pictured), one of the most famous aid climbing routes on El Capitan?
- Source: Outside Magazine, PlanetMountain, Gripped Magazine
- Reviewed:
Aszx5000 (talk) 13:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving nomination. Article is long enough and promoted to GA 1 day before DYK nom. Article is well-sourced, presentable, and copyvio-free (excluding quoted section). Hook is interesting and well-sourced. Image meets criteria. QPQ not needed. Good to go. Thank you for you nomination Aszx5000! Kimikel (talk) 02:35, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Jacob Geller
- ... that Jewish video essayist Jacob Geller cited Jewish traditions of study and scholarship as an inspiration behind his analysis of popular culture?
- Source: Engber, Corinne. "Running on Serendipity: Jacob Geller on Video Game Journalism", Jewish Boston, 16 February 2021. Retrieved 2 June 2024.
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Orchastrattor (talk) 20:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article is long enough and published a day before DYK submission. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and copyvio-free. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ not needed. Good to go. Thank you for your nomination Orchastrattor! Kimikel (talk) 02:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Supernovae in fiction
- ... that in fiction, supernovae (pictured) are induced to serve as weapons, power sources for time travel, and advertisements?
- Source: weaponized, power source for time travel, advertisement.
TompaDompa (talk) 21:59, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- article was recently promoted, is long enough and is within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is complete. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Georg Kareski
- ... that Zionist activist Georg Kareski defended the Nuremberg Laws in a Nazi newspaper? Source: https://www.jta.org/archive/kareski-quoted-by-angriff-as-justifying-nuremberg-laws
(t · c) buidhe 05:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Buidhe (talk), review follows: article created 22 June; article is on the shorter side but exceeds minimum length; sources look to be reliable for the information cited; a QPQ has been carried out; hook fact is interesting and stated in the article. I don't have access to the academic sources cited but happy to assume they support the statement, the JTA contemporary source reports the fact. I didn't spot any overly close paraphrasing from the sources I could access. Looks fine to me, interesting article/subject - Dumelow (talk) 12:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 23
editMount Leona Fire
- ... that sources have reported the Mount Leona Fire (smoke pictured) as little as 4,820 acres (1,950 ha) or over 6,000 acres (2,400 ha)?
- Source:
- "Ferry County, Washington Community Wildfire Protection Plan (CWPP) section "4.2.2.1.3 Mount Leona Fire (2001) - 4,820 acres" bottom of page 65
- Associated Press (August 27, 2001). "Washington wildfires winding down". Ellensburg Daily Record. p. 3. gives 6,199 acres
- ALT1: ... that the Mount Leona Fire (smoke pictured) was finally contained on the upper slopes of Profanity?
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- "Ferry County, Washington Community Wildfire Protection Plan (CWPP) gives 4820 section "4.2.2.1.3 Mount Leona Fire (2001) - 4,820 acres" middle of page 66
- "Once the fire had reached higher elevations on Profanity Peak and the northerly slopes of the headwaters of Long Alec Creek, the fire behavior moderated so that hand crews and dozers were able to stop the fire"
Kevmin § 23:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving ALT1. Article is well-sourced, presentable, and copyvio-free. Article is long enough and moved to mainspace 1 day before DYK nom. ALT0 is lacking a verb (I think you just forgot to write "burned"); as such, I'm approving ALT1, which is intriguing and sourced here on page 73. Image meets criteria. QPQ done. Thank you for the nomination Kevmin! Kimikel (talk) 21:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Red (Taylor's Version)
- ... that the Taylor Swift album Red (Taylor's Version) was credited by media publications with popularizing the "Sad Girl Autumn" popular culture phenomenon?
- Source: "Speaking of Taylor Swift, we must thank her for originating the season. Last November, the singer-songwriter put a name to “Sad Girl Autumn” when she released a re-recorded version of her album Red" (The Independent)
Ippantekina (talk) 12:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article was promoted to GA and nominated here within the relevant window. Article is long enough and has no copyvio concerns. Hook is sourced appropriately but I would recommend removing the inline attribution to The Independent. One reason is that the article is by a writer with The Independent (rather than an editorial by The Independent). Additionally, the claim that Red (Taylor's Version) spurred "Sad Girl Autumn" is not exclusive to Meredith Clark's article in The Independent. I would recommend altering it to read "that the Taylor Swift album Red (Taylor's Version) was credited with creating the 'Sad Girl Autumn' popular culture phenomenon?" Otherwise, outstanding work. Looking forward to approving upon reply. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review! I have tweaked the hook accordingly :) Let me know if that works. Ippantekina (talk) 03:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'd swap "by" to "in", but that’s quibbling. Good work, glad to see it run! ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review! I have tweaked the hook accordingly :) Let me know if that works. Ippantekina (talk) 03:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Wong Sau Ying
- ... that after Wong Sau Ying attempted to assassinate a British colonial official, the police and press began to associate the bob cut with anarchism?
- Source: Harper, Tim (2021). Underground Asia: Global Revolutionaries and the Assault on Empire. Harvard University Press. pp. 509–510. ISBN 978-0-674-72461-7.
Grnrchst (talk) 09:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting and clears Earwig, length, QPQ, and formatting, but can you provide a quotation directly in the reference to verify the claim? Orchastrattor (talk) 21:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Orchastrattor: It's tricky, because this hook is summing up two full pages of information. It's not something I can easily quote. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst: the bit about the bob cut would be the only thing that needs verification, is the claim paraphrased directly from the author or does the source simply give some individual examples? Orchastrattor (talk) 15:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Orchastrattor: Here's a couple excerpts from the text. It goes further into this in preceding and subsequent paragraphs:
--Grnrchst (talk) 09:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)The colonial public was chilled by her [Wong Sau Ying's] exacting premeditation. The ‘bobbed-hair woman’ had arrived in Kuala Lumpur only that morning. Some reports said that she came from Canton; others that she was from Penang, and fluent in Malay. They were, above all, obsessed by the way she looked. [...]
The year 1925 was when the ‘Modern Girl’ became a global phenomenon, and in this the women of Asia took the lead. [...] There were stories of ‘bobbed-hair riots’ as far away as Mexico City, of rival ‘anti-bobbed-hair leagues’ and ‘bobbed-hair defence leagues’. [...]
The ‘Modern Girl’ was increasingly linked to a dangerous, disordered modernity; to nihilism and to anarchism. As one expatriate journal put it: ‘The now notorious “bobbed-haired” lady might just as well have turned up in Venezuela or Tibet for all the relation that her “mission” had to events in Malaya... Politics virtually do not exist in this country.’ The Straits Times brayed for a system of ‘identity tickets’ to indicate who was a loyal subject of His Majesty King George V and who was not. There were suddenly other sightings of ‘strange’ young women in Kuala Lumpur. [...]
At the root of the case was her ‘new style’.
- @Grnrchst: passes V and neutrality then, approved! Orchastrattor (talk) 15:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Orchastrattor: Here's a couple excerpts from the text. It goes further into this in preceding and subsequent paragraphs:
A9 dualling project
- ... that the upgrades of the A9 in Scotland between Perth and Inverness is far from being complete despite the 2025 deadline?
- ALT1: ... that Transport Scotland promised to dual the A9 from Perth to Inverness by 2025, but only 11 miles (18 km) have been done by 2023, leaving 77 miles (123 km) to be dualled? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64568406
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JuniperChill (talk) 10:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
- Comment I meant to say 'Moved to mainspace', not created as this was a draft before I moved it onto mainspace yesterday JuniperChill (talk) 10:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- New enough, well written, quite interesting. no copy vio Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Ascension Island Marine Protected Area
- ... that Ascension Island has declared its entire ocean territory a protected area with no commercial fishing permitted? Source: Pew Trusts
- ALT1: ... that research undertaken to create the Ascension Island Marine Protected Area found it would be more economical to ban commercial fishing altogether than to sell fishing licences? Source: Muench et al. 2022: "It was concluded that the current number of licenses sold would not cover the monitoring and enforcement cost for option 1: partial closure of the EEZ"
- ALT2: ... that the South Atlantic Anomaly prevents some remote sensing methods from working over the Ascension Island Marine Protected Area? Source: Rowlands et a. 2019: "VIIRS night time vessel detection products are locally ineffective because of the South Atlantic magnetic anomaly"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Texas Centennial half dollar
- Comment: Other hook ideas welcome!
CMD (talk) 14:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Cobra Crack
- ... that when Didier Berthod failed to make the first free ascent of Cobra Crack (pictured) in 2005, he quit climbing and became a Franciscan monk, but returned in 2024 to make the 20th ascent?
- Source: Climbing Mazine, PlanetMountain
Aszx5000 (talk) 13:57, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 03:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 24
editCrown Building (Manhattan)
- ... that the first home of the Museum of Modern Art was six rooms in New York City's Crown Building? Source: "New Modern Art Museum Opens Exhibit Today: First Showing of Paintings in Heckscher Building Galleries L. by Invitation Admit Public Tomorrow Patrons Lend Works by Cezanne Gauguin. Seurat". New York Herald Tribune. November 7, 1929. p. 48; Rothman, Lily (November 7, 2014). "The Museum of Modern Art, Then and Now". TIME.
- ALT1: ... that Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos bought New York City's Crown Building because of a tearful plea? Source: Moses, Paul (April 10, 1990). "Banker: Imelda's Tears Did Trick". Newsday. p. 17
- ALT2: ... that after New York City's Crown Building was sold for tens of millions of US dollars, the Philippine government received about US$3,000? Source: "New York Crown Building Auctioned at $93.6 Million". The Wall Street Journal. February 11, 1991. p. B5A; "NY taxmen go after a third Philippine bldg". Filipino Reporter. March 24, 1994. p. 1.
- ALT3: ... that New York City's Crown Building was the world's costliest office building per square foot when it was sold for US$1.75 billion in 2015? Source: Clarke, Katherine (May 15, 2015). "He's a Big Deal Again an Empire's in Play as Spitzer Calls the Shots". New York Daily News. p. 1.
- ALT4: ... that a building once owned by a Philippine dictator is now a luxury hotel? Source: Moses, Paul (April 10, 1990). "Banker: Imelda's Tears Did Trick". Newsday. p. 17; Wrathall, Claire (August 25, 2022). "Inside New York's newest — and most expensive — hotel". Financial Times.
- ALT5: ... that a former home of the Museum of Modern Art is now a luxury hotel? Source: Rothman, Lily (November 7, 2014). "The Museum of Modern Art, Then and Now". TIME; Wrathall, Claire (August 25, 2022). "Inside New York's newest — and most expensive — hotel". Financial Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Coon Rapids Dam
Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
- 5x expansion confirmed by DYK check tool. Article is appropriately sourced, no issues with CV, neutrality, etc. Hook suggestions are all in the article and appropriately cited to reliable sources. I'm partial to ALT1 or ALT4, but promoter is free to pick any of the hooks, they're all decent. Photo is free, used in the article, and looks good at a small size. QPQ completed. No issues, looks good to me. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:08, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 25
editTim Hughes (soldier)
- ... that decorated Aboriginal soldier Tim Hughes (pictured) was a successful soldier-settler after World War II?
- Source: Hall, Robert (1996). "Hughes, Timothy (1919–1976)". Australian Dictionary of Biography
- ALT1: ... that Aboriginal soldier Tim Hughes (pictured) was decorated for remarkable bravery, exceptional coolness and initiative during the Battle of Buna–Gona? Source: Smith, Ian (2022). "Tim Hughes MM MBE". For Love of Country: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander service personnel from South Australia since Federation, p. 107.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ List of historic places in Kaikōura District
Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving both hooks. Article is long enough and promoted to GA same day as DYK nomination. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and copyvio-free. Hooks are interesting and sourced; although 2nd source is not accessible, it is acceptable on good faith. Image meets criteria, QPQ done. Good to go, thank you for your nomination Peacemaker67! Kimikel (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Peter Talbot (bishop)
- ... that Peter Talbot (pictured), Catholic Archbishop of Dublin, was imprisoned in 1678 due to an anti-Catholic conspiracy?
- Reviewed:
SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 01:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article is long enough and was promoted to GA one day before DYK nom. Article is well-sourced, presentable, and copyvio-free. Hook is interesting and sourced. No QPQ needed. Image meets criteria. Good to go, thank you for your nominiation SkywalkerEccleston - Kimikel (talk) 21:57, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Kelvite sounding machine
- ... that the Kelvite sounding machine used a chemical reaction to determine the depth of water in which a ship was sailing?
- Source: Y. Berard. "Thomson pneumatic sounder". National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Retrieved 24 June 2024.
AntientNestor (talk) 09:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: AGF on the offline sources, but the sourcing frequency is adequate and the online sources are acceptable. I might add to the hook that the device was invented in 1872, and perhaps that it continued to be used through the 20th century, as I think that's an interesting detail. There's a freely-licensed diagram that could be used as a hook image, although the small text labels may be undesirable at 120px. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Coon Rapids Dam
- ... that the Coon Rapids Dam on the Mississippi River is the northern terminus of the river's navigable portion?
- Source: Anfinson, John (2003). River of History: A Historic Resources Study of the Mississippi National River and Recreation Area (PDF). Retrieved 25 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Snow Bowl (1985)
- Comment:
QPQ to come.
Pbritti (talk) 04:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
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- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: @Darth Stabro and Pbritti: Nice work on this article. There are just a few issues that need to be fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 15:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: Thanks for the review! I think the issues have been addressed. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to go now. Epicgenius (talk) 16:13, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Ashin Munindabhivamsa
- ... that Myanmar’s junta Min Aung Hlaing publicly apologized religious leaders for the firearm death of Shindan Sayadaw, a prominent scholar monk who was shot by the Tatmadaw soldiers in June 2024? Source: VOA Burmese, The Irrawaddy
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hypochrysops piceatus
- Comment: The subject was also nominated for ITN as RD.
Htanaungg (talk) 10:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The article appeared in the news before, and the hook does not seem interesting because these types of killings are common. Considering the reply of the nominator. I feel life ALT2 is more interesting. TheNuggeteer (talk) 00:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer: Thank you for the review. Per WP:DYKNEW, I’ve mentioned in the comment that the subject is listed only in RD section of the ITN, not bold link.
- Although this type of killing may be common elsewhere, it is a rare case in the highly religious country that a prominent religious figure was shot dead by the ruling junta’s soldiers. Plus, it is very few that the junta apologized publicly; he would never show his weakness in public.
- I’d like to nominate another ALTs:
- ALT1: ...that Myanmar’s junta Min Aung Hlaing publicly apologized for the firearm death of Shindan Sayadaw, a few days after his spokesman blamed the opposition armed groups for the case?
- ALT2: ...that the assassination of Shindan Sayadaw in June 2024 led to a confrontation between the Burmese military and the religious leaders?
- Regards, Htanaungg (talk) 03:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Software maintenance
- ... that maintenance of existing software is estimated to cost more than three times as much as its development? Source: various, see article
(t · c) buidhe 00:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough (promoted to GA yesteday).
- The article is long enough.
- The article is well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, and copyvio-free. Earwig at 4.8%, copyvio unlikely.
- The article is presentable.
- The hook is cited to a reliable source (I assume Ref9 in the article), the source is not linked in the DYK.
- Images are in public domain.
- QPQ done.
Looks good to me. Vacant0 (talk) 11:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 26
editRozelle–Darling Harbour railway line
- ... that the former Rozelle–Darling Harbour Goods Line features the largest brick railway viaduct in New South Wales?
- Source: 'The 28-span Jubilee Park Viaduct is significant as the longest section of brick arch viaduct on the NSW system.' https://www.hms.heritage.nsw.gov.au/App/Item/ViewItem?itemId=5045444
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Since opening this nomination, I have moved the page from Rozelle–Darling Harbour railway line to Rozelle–Darling Harbour Goods Line. The former title reflected general – but not mandatory – convention on articles for Australian railway lines, while the latter reflects the line's common name. As such, this nomination links to what is now a redirect, while the hook itself links to what is now the article's primary title. The article remains the same; it has simply been moved on relatively minor technical grounds. Will Thorpe (talk) 07:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Will Thorpe (talk) 15:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC).
- @Willthorpe: Redirects are not allowed on the main page and I'm not quite sure what your comment's trying to say, could you fix the link?--Launchballer 16:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer The subject of the nomination is the main page, not the redirect. The title of the article (Rozelle-Darling Harbour railway line) reflects Wikipedia convention on the naming of rail lines in Australia, while the hook and article body (Rozelle-Darling Harbour Goods Line) reflects its common name. Happy to amend if necessary. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I’ve actually now requested the article be moved to its common name, which is what is used in the nomination. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 01:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough, interesting, no copyright problems, hook cited on article, all good. The light is now green. JuniperChill (talk) 21:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
WIAT
- ... that an Alabama TV station fired nearly its entire news staff and replaced its newscasts with a countdown clock for more than a month? Source: https://ajrarchive.org/Article.asp?id=2317
- ALT1: ... that the manager of an Alabama TV station expected a countdown clock to get more viewers than his newscasts did? Source: Hubbard, Russell (December 31, 1997). "Time for change: Countdown clock subs for 42 news". The Birmingham News. pp. 1A, 7A.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yang Jingru (speed skater)
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 11:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Both hooks are verified. Cunard (talk) 11:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Windy Zhan
... that Windy Zhan (pictured) is a member of the Hong Kong Cantopop girl group After Class who has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?
- Source: "詹天文成功考入美國伯克利音樂學院 繼姚焯菲後到海外升學". am730 (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 4 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "After Class...成員...詹天文(Windy)...,她在5歲時已隨女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
- "與顧嘉煇王力宏做校友 詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄". Mingpao Weekly (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "5歲開始隨女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習聲樂"
- "聲夢小花|詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄 Windy音樂造詣高5歲學聲樂【多圖】". Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Archived from the original on 18 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "Windy在5歲起跟隨專業女高音歌唱家王珊、戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
- "《聲夢》詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄成顧嘉煇王力宏師妹 5歲跟名師學聲樂屢獲獎". Headline Daily (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "TVB歌唱節目《聲夢傳奇》首季參賽者詹天文(Windy)雖然沒有得到三甲名次,但憑出色歌藝被選中加入女子組合After Class...,5歲已跟專業女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
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Will629 (talk) 19:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- Hello, Will629. The nomination is timely and the article is long enough with no copyvios detected. Several entries in the Discography table, as well as the Awards and nominations table, appear unsourced, though. These would require references. I think it can use some tweaking for catchiness; how about this?--NØ 19:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?
- MaranoFan, thank you very much for your prompt review. I have corrected the issues and your question suggestion is very good, thank you! May I ask what do I need to do for using your ALT1 suggestion, as I am new for DYK in English Wikipedia. Thank you!--Will629 (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have struck the first hook so ALT1 will be considered by the promotor, no further action required. Thank you for correcting the issues so quickly. Foreign-language reference accepted in good faith, this is good to go. Welcome to the English Wikipedia and best of luck here!--NØ 20:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much again!--Will629 (talk) 20:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have struck the first hook so ALT1 will be considered by the promotor, no further action required. Thank you for correcting the issues so quickly. Foreign-language reference accepted in good faith, this is good to go. Welcome to the English Wikipedia and best of luck here!--NØ 20:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- MaranoFan, thank you very much for your prompt review. I have corrected the issues and your question suggestion is very good, thank you! May I ask what do I need to do for using your ALT1 suggestion, as I am new for DYK in English Wikipedia. Thank you!--Will629 (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?
Ianto's Shrine
- ... that a shrine (pictured) dedicated to the fictional character Ianto Jones is visited by people from around the world?
- ALT1: ... that fans created Ianto's Shrine (pictured) after the death of a fictional character? Source: "In 2009, during the third series titled “Children of Earth”, Ianto met his untimely death which left fans shocked and heartbroken. What started as few flowers laid down at Mermaid Quay (the location used as Torchwood’s base) soon turned into hundreds more from grieving fans worldwide who decided to pay their respects to this much-loved character."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Croton alabamensis
- Comment: Could also be a non-picture hook if needed.
Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 02:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Good job! TheNuggeteer (talk) 06:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 27
editTeri Ore
- ... that the 2008 Hindi-language song "Teri Ore" was shot in six hours in Egypt with Katrina Kaif changing?
- Reviewed:
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 09:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. RoySmith (talk) 18:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Long enough
- New enough
- Earwig is over-quota on searches, but no problems seen when run in links-only mode.
- I don't see any problems with NPOV, BLP, etc.
- The sources range from high-quality to meh (random entertainment industry websites) but nothing that sets off alarm bells.
- Nom is QPQ-exempt.
- The hook fact is in the article and cited. That being said, I don't know what "changing" means in this context
- I don't know anything about how music videos are shot, but having it done in 6 hours does seem interesting.
- approved, with the one proviso that maybe the word "changing" needs to be clarified in the hook. RoySmith (talk) 18:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Jenny Hurn
- ... that Jenny Hurn (pictured) in Lincolnshire, England, is said to be haunted by a boggart that crosses the River Trent in a dish propelled by oars the size of teaspoons?
- Source: "boggart-haunted Jenny Hurn Bend ... 'Jenny' was a long-lived Trentside legend, a water sprite called a 'boggart,' diminutive but dangerous, here 'described' by the pioneering folklorist Ethel Rudkin (1893-1985) .... occasionally crosses the river from the western side, embarked in a small craft resembling a large pie-dish. The pygmy propels the dish rapidly across the stream by means of a minute pair of oars, the size of teaspoons" from: Turner, Derek (7 July 2022). Edge of England: Landfall in Lincolnshire. Hurst Publishers. p. 293. ISBN 978-1-78738-887-1.
Dumelow (talk) 12:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced and neutral. It's plagiarism free (Earwig 0%) and the hook is cited and interesting. (It might be nice to hyperlink boggart, and/or perhaps add in pie before dish, but neither is neccessary.) The picture used is under free licence, it is clear. QPQ is done. Lovely article. Lajmmoore (talk) 07:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Buq Buq labor camp
- ... that after being freed from Buq Buq labor camp in Italian-occupied Egypt, Libyan Jewish prisoners had to walk home across the desert?
- Source: Roumani, Maurice M. “The Changing Fortunes of Libyan Jews under Italian Colonialism.” Jews of Libya: Coexistence, Persecution, Resettlement, Liverpool University Press, 2021, pp. 33–34. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctv3029jsr.9. Accessed 27 June 2024.
꧁Zanahary꧂ 12:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: TheNuggeteer (talk) 01:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Zanahary, you wrote "which made the ordeal easier for the Jews"--can you explain whose opinion that was or how something was easier? Without such context it's kind of an odd statement. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 12:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Drmies Sure, done. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 13:29, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Monumite
- ... that in 2010 Unilever invited Britons to congregate and worship at a shrine to Marmite (pictured)?
- Source: "Unilever, Marmite’s parent company, says the sculpture in Burton upon Trent will provide a place for fans to “congregate and worship” the salty spread" from: Baker, Rosie (19 October 2010). "Marmite unveils brand shrine". Marketing Week. Retrieved 27 June 2024.<
- ALT1: ... that a Portland Stone sculpture of a jar of Marmite (pictured) stands in Burton upon Trent, England? Source: "Marmite lovers says they are delighted with the new sculpture celebrating the yeast spread which has been sited in the centre of Burton-upon-Trent. ... Carved from Portland Stone, the sculpture also incorporates some digital elements. ... 'We intended to keep the design of the piece very simple. The form of the Marmite jar is so instantly recognisable; we wanted to celebrate this iconicity by producing a schematic representation of it'" from: "Marmite sculpture unveiled". BBC News. 18 October 2010. Retrieved 27 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Catherine G. Williams
Dumelow (talk) 16:34, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing... new enough, long enough, reads well, QPQ provided, very interesting hook. Will complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- ... Both hooks are followed by citations to references containing hook fact, neutral, no copyvio issues, image is clear and free. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 28
editCannonball (LIRR train)
- ... that the Cannonball (pictured) is the only Long Island Rail Road train still known by its historic name?
- Source: [20]
The only named train operated by the L.I.R.R., the Cannonball first traveled these tracks in the 1890s as an express train between Long Island City and Southampton.
- ALT1: ... that the Cannonball (pictured), a commuter train on the Long Island Rail Road, once operated exclusively with parlor cars? Source: [21]
This summer it will have all-parlor car trains on the long runs to the twin tips of Long Island.
; [22]...from May to October, the railroad runs the Cannonball Express, which McNamara called the only all-parlor-car train in the country.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Project Ketch
- Comment: I would prefer the hook to run on a Friday, since the train runs on summer Fridays.
Complex/Rational 14:29, 29 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: for ALT1 as I think folks will want to click on parlor car and it meets the criteria. For ALT0, the name bit didn't really make me want to read more into it. I'm also not convinced that the source for ALT0 fully backs up the claim, as it says it's the only one known by a name, not necessarily that it is still known by the same name. Seems a bit synthy. Grk1011 (talk) 13:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Grk1011: Thanks for the review. There are a couple of other sources throughout the article indicating other named trains no longer run, plus the 2024 timetable and press release that mention the name, but I'm cool sticking with ALT1. Complex/Rational 14:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Sport in Vatican City
- ... that sport in Vatican City started in the 1st century, when a chariot racing track was built in what was then ancient Rome?
- ALT1: ... that in the aftermath of World War II, sport in Vatican City was encouraged by Pope Pius XII? Source: [25]
- Reviewed:
Arconning (talk) 09:24, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Source 1 doesn't seem to mention the facts in the hook, and the second source seems somewhat partisan and I'm somewhat suspicious of the quality of an article starting with "Did You Know". Does the academic source mentioned in the same paragraph in this article ([26]) mention it in any way? That would be much better. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 06:42, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Flemmish Nietzsche: Sadly, the academic source doesn't back the claim up but it does back up the claim that an area in the Vatican was once a chariot racing track. Though I'm not sure what's Wikipedia's and the DYK's policy on "possibly statements" (i.e. ...that sport in Vatican City possibly started in the 1st century, when a chariot racing track was built in what was then ancient Rome?" I suggest using ALT1 instead if that's the case. Though I can make another hook if it isn't interesting enough. Arconning (talk) 06:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Arconning I checked that journal I suggested, fand you're right about it not being definite that the chariot track ever actually existed there. ALT1 is not the most interesting, but I could accept it if there's nothing else better you can find. How about "... that sport in Vatican City began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?" This might not be the "start" of sport in the area that is now the Vatican, but it seems to be the first major event when that area was under the control of an independent Papal State, so I think it would pass. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Flemmish Nietzsche For the hook that you suggested, I'm all for it but with some minor tweaks. Since we can't really determine when sport in Vatican City really started, I think we should put something like "governed by the nation", "started by the nation", or something shorter. (i.e. ... that sport in Vatican City started by the nation began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?"). Arconning (talk) 07:38, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Arconning "started by the nation" seems somewhat iffy, as it could be confused with "nation" meaning a group of people sharing a common identity rather than a sovereign state; maybe "state-sponsored" or "officially" would be better? (... that state-sponsored sport in Vatican City began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?") Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Flemmish Nietzsche "Officially" works fine with me. Arconning (talk) 07:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that sport in Vatican City officially began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?" Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Flemmish Nietzsche "Officially" works fine with me. Arconning (talk) 07:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Arconning "started by the nation" seems somewhat iffy, as it could be confused with "nation" meaning a group of people sharing a common identity rather than a sovereign state; maybe "state-sponsored" or "officially" would be better? (... that state-sponsored sport in Vatican City began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?") Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Flemmish Nietzsche For the hook that you suggested, I'm all for it but with some minor tweaks. Since we can't really determine when sport in Vatican City really started, I think we should put something like "governed by the nation", "started by the nation", or something shorter. (i.e. ... that sport in Vatican City started by the nation began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?"). Arconning (talk) 07:38, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Arconning I checked that journal I suggested, fand you're right about it not being definite that the chariot track ever actually existed there. ALT1 is not the most interesting, but I could accept it if there's nothing else better you can find. How about "... that sport in Vatican City began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?" This might not be the "start" of sport in the area that is now the Vatican, but it seems to be the first major event when that area was under the control of an independent Papal State, so I think it would pass. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
ABC Cinema, Brighton
- ... that the world premiere of Brighton Rock was held at Brighton's ABC Cinema (pictured)?
- Source: Allen Eyles (2003), Brighton and Hove Cinemas, p.71. "At midnight on Thursday 8 January 1948, the world premiere of Brighton Rock took place at the Savoy (no other cinema was in the running, as it was made by ABC's associated production company)." (First sentence from a full paragraph about the premiere. The Savoy was the name of the cinema at the time, as noted in the article.)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chicken of Tomorrow Contest
- Comment: Another Brighton article contributed as part of the recent restarting of Wikipedia:WikiProject Brighton.
Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 19:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
- Reveiewing... new enough, long enough, QPQ provided. Hook in article, image free. Will complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- ...No copyvio issues, neutral. Hook is followed by a citation to a reference i cannot see, though a copy of the text is provided above. Reads well and hook and article are interesting. Thank you for your work. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 29
edit2022 Brink's theft
- ... that two years ago today millions of dollars worth of jewelry was stolen from the back of a truck while one driver was getting food at a California truck stop and the other one was asleep in the cab?
- ALT1:
... that the jewelers victimized in the theft from a Brink's truck two years ago today admit they undervalued their wares but argue the company should still pay them full value because it was negligent?Source: "So two months later, Brink’s sued them in a New York federal court, in part accusing the jewelers of breach of contract and of fraud because they had allegedly undervalued their items. 'Brink’s believes that each Defendant seeks to recover more from Brink’s than is permitted under the Contract,' the company wrote in its suit ... Two weeks later, 14 of the 15 victims countersued Brink’s in Los Angeles County Superior Court, seeking $200 million in total damages. (Since then, three have settled for an undisclosed sum.) They accuse the company of negligence for putting their valuables in a lightly protected truck, especially after being warned of heightened security risk at the expo." Same source as above - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Barry Burton
- Comment: As indicated I would really for this to run on July 11. I will be asking at WT:DYK for some expedited review.
Daniel Case (talk) 06:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC).
- Someone else can review this, but if I promote I'll be changing 'two years ago today' to 'July 11, 2022' as hooks must not be likely to change and I'll be promoting a version of ALT0 truncated at 'truck' per WP:DYKTRIM.--Launchballer 23:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Review underway. I fully reviewed but the edit conflict erased my work. GRRR. Lightburst (talk) 23:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Thanks for an interesting article. Note: Earwig did not work for me so I spot checked the majority of sources and found that they are accurate and not closely paraphrased. AlT0 is exactly 200 characters and ALT1 is 198 (I struck ALT1 because I do not find it WP:DYKINT. I think ALT0 is the most interesting and it is confirmed by citation in the article. The article has 13 citations cited to Bloomberg which is a cartoon-illustrated article. I do not see why it would not be reliable but it is a curious way to present a serious subject. Also:Launchballer Suggest you do not trim the hook because your suggestion would remove all interest and it is 200 characters so complies with our guidelines. Lightburst (talk) 23:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I suggest that the first lead paragraph be rewritten; at the moment it reads like a story. See MOS:OPEN for recommendations. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've divested the lead of extraneous content and moved the third paragraph up (it makes sense to have 'this was nicked' next to 'here's how'). Airship can adjudicate as to whether the theft of millions of dollars worth of jewelry is interesting on its own.--Launchballer 06:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC
- It is within the 200-character limit, as noted. If it were not, I would not have submitted it. Tell me, what exactly is the point of having that limit if, after taking steps to comply with it, someone nevertheless takes it upon themselves to wade into a discussion and suggest it needs to be trimmed for some reason other than being too wordy?
Jewel thefts are perhaps interesting on their own. Jewel thefts that occur when one of the guards is sleeping nearby and the other one is off getting fast food are even more interesting, and if we can fit that all into a coherently-written 200-character hook, we should. Daniel Case (talk) 17:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- It is within the 200-character limit, as noted. If it were not, I would not have submitted it. Tell me, what exactly is the point of having that limit if, after taking steps to comply with it, someone nevertheless takes it upon themselves to wade into a discussion and suggest it needs to be trimmed for some reason other than being too wordy?
- I've divested the lead of extraneous content and moved the third paragraph up (it makes sense to have 'this was nicked' next to 'here's how'). Airship can adjudicate as to whether the theft of millions of dollars worth of jewelry is interesting on its own.--Launchballer 06:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC
Newton Lower Falls Branch
- ... that the Newton Lower Falls Branch was operated with a single electric railcar (pictured) nicknamed the "Ping-Pong"?
- Source: Boston Globe, April 6, 1909; Humphrey, Thomas J.; Clark, Norton D. (1986). Boston's Commuter Rail: Second Section. Boston Street Railway Association. ISBN 9780938315025.
- ALT1: ... that the rails of the Newton Lower Falls Branch were removed, but it was never legally abandoned? Source: 2014 and 2017 court cases
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Frances Darlington
Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
National Coordination Committee Against Corruption and Crime
- ... that Bangladeshi government agency National Coordination Committee Against Corruption and Crime collected ৳6.5 billion (equivalent to ৳16 billion or US$140 million in 2022) from corruption suspects which the court deemed was illegal?
Mehedi Abedin 03:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting article. All parts of the article are cited with no problems with copyright. The stated hook is also mentioned in the article with proper sourcing. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 14:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 30
editBuangkok MRT station
- ... that in a
rareform of public protest in Singapore, eight white cardboard elephants were put up to lobby for Buangkok MRT station's opening?
ZKang123 (talk) 01:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Got GA status 5 days ago, so the article and its hook is okay. I omitted the word "rare" because the sources don't exactly state that this type of protest is rare in Singapore. If the nominator can provide source for the claim then I will reverse it. Mehedi Abedin 13:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Well, according to Public demonstrations in Singapore, yes they are rare.--ZKang123 (talk) 14:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ZKang123: Need an inline citation, because that would be WP:OR if we accept the hook without inline citation that states it is rare or any kind of indication in the source. Mehedi Abedin 14:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 1
editSoldiers' and Sailors' Arch
- ... that New York City's Soldiers' and Sailors' Arch once had a puppet library? Source: Weissenstein, Michael (June 11, 2005). "Visitors having enormous fun at N.Y. Puppet Library". The Journal News. The Associated Press. p. 30.
- ALT1: ... that New York City's Municipal Art Commission thought the Soldiers' and Sailors' Arch faced the wrong way? Source: "Art Commission Thinks These Are Not Well Placed". Times Union. December 17, 1910. p. 15.
- ALT2: ... that a sculpture of a wounded soldier on the Soldiers' and Sailors' Arch was modeled after its designer's former mentor? Source: Liff, Bob (December 27, 1999). "Arch bridges centuries". New York Daily News. p. 437
- ALT3: ... that at one point, a statue on the Soldiers' and Sailors' Arch reportedly dangled from a screw? Source: Iverem, Esther (April 30, 1991). "Arch at Grand Army Plaza Hosts 'Homes' Exhibit". Newsday. p. 63
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/William P. Dole
Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC).
- Substantial article on its way to higher quality, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. All hooks work, I like ALT1 best, but am told regularly that I have now idea what our readers find interesting. The image is licensed and impressive. Just waiting for qpq. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review @Gerda Arendt and sorry for the delay. I have now done a QPQ. Epicgenius (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review @Gerda Arendt and sorry for the delay. I have now done a QPQ. Epicgenius (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Sophienburg Museum and Archives
- ... that the site of the headquarters of the German colonization of Texas was converted into a museum?
- ALT1: ... that the Sophienburg Museum and Archives in New Braunfels, Texas, was named after the wife of a German prince? Source: https://www.co.comal.tx.us/Historical/Markers/SophienburgHillMarker/SOPHIENBURG%20HILL%202016%20for%20website.pdf
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Kimikel (talk) 00:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC).
- Comment - I went to review, but both the sourcces cited for the hooks appear to be blocked in the UK where I am based. Lajmmoore (talk) 06:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore: Try this - Kimikel (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore: Try this - Kimikel (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced, plagiarism free and a QPQ is done. ALT0 is cited and interesting, but (from my reading) ALT1 might not work: isn't it that the fort was named after the princess, and the museum is named after the fort? So slightly different in the hook to the article. I might be overthinking though! Lajmmoore (talk) 13:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
TESCREAL
- ... that Timnit Gebru and Émile P. Torres created the acronym TESCREAL to describe a group of ideologies popular among people focused on existential risk from artificial general intelligence?
GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC).
The readable prose size is 1,119 words which is well short of the required 1,500 words. Notifying nominator.- @PearlyGigs: DYK requires articles be greater than 1,500 characters in length, which this article exceeds (7,845). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Characters? Oh, dear! My apologies, GorillaWarfare, and I'll continue. First one of these I've done. PearlyGigs (talk) 20:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @PearlyGigs: DYK requires articles be greater than 1,500 characters in length, which this article exceeds (7,845). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Was a draft until today so new enough and, as I now realise, also long enough. I can't see any problems in the article around copyvio, POV or OR. Sourcing looks good overall and the hook citations appear to be sound and reliable. The hook is certainly interesting because it caught my eye immediately when I was checking my own nomination. QPQ has been done. I think this is fine and it should be promoted. PearlyGigs (talk) 21:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose this nomination: An article on this subject was deleted 7 months ago because of weak sourcing. There haven't been any new sources added other than a paper by the two proponents of this theory and lots of other really weak sources. Wikipedia's job isn't to promote anti-vaxx conspiracy theories or other conspiracy theories, of which in my and other people's opinions, this is one. The only people claiming that ANYONE adheres to these multiple philosophies is Torres and Gebru. ---Avatar317(talk) 00:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Original admin who closed AfD undeleted it after i proposed appropriate changes. the AfD never came to consensus of conspiracy theory (just u), and deleted it due to lack of WP:N. if u want to delete this again, use AfD again or bug the original admin.Bluethricecreamman (talk) 01:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed that that would be a conversation for AfD, not DYK. The article is neutral and adequately sourced. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 01:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- The LEAD is well written and neutral, thanks for that.---Avatar317(talk) 03:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I was aware when I did the DYK review that the article is about ideologies, but I don't consider the article to be promoting those ideologies because it is neutral. The subject, in my opinion, is notable. I can't say I'm knowledgeable about TESCREAL but the article does appear to be adequately sourced. I've been reading it again and I still think the hook should be promoted. But, as I say, I am not an SME in this area so I will happily step aside if an SME is needed. Incidentally, the lead is the primary location of the hook material and its two sources. Thanks. PearlyGigs (talk) 09:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have to second the concerns brought up above: this article was merged in November for poor sourcing and the fact that it seemed to lean very heavily into the op-ed angle of the source it did use. To be clear, I certainly have a great personal distaste for the majority of people who run the majority of software companies, and ethical objections to a good portion of the United States' GDP (I am a diehard Linux user with all of the political implications that entails). However, the implication that "global tech elites" are engaged in a deliberate scheme to carry out eugenics (as one of the sources said from the previous version of this article), based on a collection of op-eds and blog posts where people who hate them say this a bunch of times, seems to raise some rather significant BLP issues. It is somewhat concerning to vaguely imply this in wikivoice as though it's settled fact, and then the citations are to a journal of biosemiotics. jp×g🗯️ 02:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Posting on here same stuff as in the Talk Page section:
- A) This article was merged for lack of WP:N. If you consider it still an issue, use WP:AfD or bug the original admin who deleted, merged, than undeleted this. It isn't a valid argument to suggest that it's settled that it deserves to remerged if we've added a ton of sourcing and improved on it. Settle it by starting the process to delete it if you want.
- B) Are there reliable sources indicating that TESCREAL is a significantly derogatory epithet similar to Libtard/Chud? Marc Andreessen self-describes as TESCREAList. Many of these folks regularly ascribe to multiple of these philosophies as transhumanists, ethical altruists, long-termists, etc. Sourcing here does not necessarily imply that every TESCREAList is also a eugenicist, nor do we use WP:SYNTH to suggest that these folks are all eugenicists. There is no mention of eugenicist claims in the third section. Also, we have Big Tech as a wikipedia article along with criticism, which is also a similar "perjorative" against tech companies, and other significant "perjoratives" with negative connotations such as Democrat in Name Only and Cuckservative. These all explain what opinion writers and commentators mean, and why. This article is far more tame than many of those.
- C) That more than a dozen opinions use a term like this should be notable enough. I suspect that any sort of article about philosophies will require opinionated sources or commentaries. Effective altruism includes sourcing from Centre for Effective Altruism and by extension the Effective Altruism Forum, study centers specifically invested in effective altruism and founded by leaders, as well as many opinions.
- D) WP:OPINION applies here, especially for philosphical arguments. I looked for criticisms of TESCREAL. If more are published, we can include them. These sources are WP:SECONDARY, they contain analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources. Secondary sources are not necessarily independent sources.
- E) If you want to settle WP:BLP, please post in the section on WP:BLPN. We've already started and done this argument. There are multiple sources on WP:PUBLICFIGUREs here alleging that many of these folks use TESCREAL to justify their tech projects, and we make sure to use the word "allege" correctly, as per WP:OPINION, along with the correct sourcing
- Conclusion:) TESCREAL is unliked by some portion of folks on here for some reason. I'm happy to listen to arguments, but I want an argument about why we are suddenly so sensitive about criticism of Elon Musk/etc. for using human extinction for every time someone criticizes his behavior or cars or products. If you are just an elon musk/nick bostrum/etc. fan, than say it and stop throwing mud on an article that contains a criticism of philosophies that occurs often enough that we can gather 20+ sources, including 10 using the term in severe detail to directly dissect the argument that yelling extinction every 15 minutes doesn't mean you've justified your next mega project. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 04:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: In the interests of not duplicating every comment, I'll just note that there is a parallel discussion happening at Talk:TESCREAL#Neutrality (to/from which some of these comments have been copied). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 12:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Lewis Worthington Smith
- ... that Lewis Worthington Smith received royalties from his textbook The Mechanism of English Style for 20 years?
- Source: "Smith, Lewis Worthington". ArchivesSpace at the University of Iowa. Retrieved July 1, 2024.
SL93 (talk) 00:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC).
- Hook is interesting and appropriately sourced. Article is both long and new enough. No copyvio concerns. QPQ done. I'd wager that The Mechanism of English Style is either suitable as a redirect or an article. Great work! ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 2
editCapital Bicycle Club
- ... that residents reported the first cyclist club in Washington, D.C., (uniform pictured) to the police, concerned that bicycles posed a danger to pedestrians?
- Source: Bloom, John (2015). "The Extraordinary History of Cycling and Bike Racing in Washington, DC". In Elzey, Chris; Wiggins, David K. (eds.). DC Sports: The Nation's Capital at Play. pages 3–5
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. AGF on hook source. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Riley Gale
- ... that a critic compared vocalist Riley Gale (pictured) to a "rabid wolf"?
- ALT1: ... that after his death, heavy metal vocalist Riley Gale (pictured) was memorialized by Fox News host Greg Gutfeld? Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/fox-news-host-greg-gutfeld-pays-tribute-to-riley-gale-of-power-trip-2739223
- Reviewed:
Kimikel (talk) 01:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC).
- Kimikel Article meets DYK standards – well-sourced, neutral, and free of plagiarism (the article is a defo must-read, pretty nice writing for a short article). The source comes from a reliable source which is... the bare minimum but yeah it works! The image supplied works as well, pretty nice quality. Original alt works. Arconning (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 3
editWilliam P. Dole
- ... that before becoming Lincoln's Commissioner of Indian Affairs, William P. Dole (pictured), was only known to have encountered Native Americans once in his life?
- Source: Kelsey, Harry (1979). "William P. Dole (1861–1865)". In Kvasnicka, Robert M.; Viola, Herman J. (eds.). The Commissioners of Indian Affairs, 1824-1977. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press. pp. 139-140
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 15:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
American Samoa at the 2020 Summer Olympics
- ... that when a sprinter competed for American Samoa at the 2020 Summer Olympics, he never competed in a sprinting event beforehand?
- ALT1: ... that American Samoa at the 2020 Summer Olympics marched 156th out of 206 countries in the opening ceremony, which was unusual because they usually march toward the beginning? Source: https://www.talanei.com/2021/07/23/team-american-samoa-in-the-olympic-parade/ https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/News/2021/07/Tokyo-2020-Opening-Ceremony-Flag-bearers-Marching-order.pdf
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Riley Gale
Arconning (talk) 15:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC).
- Bolded article is newly promoted to GA, article has decent coverage about American Samoa's participation at the games, with citations to reliable sources. Said hook is also fine – cited to a local source reliable for this topic, and the main proposed hook is also more interesting than the alt. QPQ done. No other issues.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Scott Jarvis (actor)
- ... that actor Scott Jarvis was angered when White House officials under Richard Nixon requested that portions of his role in the musical 1776 be cut due to its anti-war theme?
- Source: "Courier for Washington". Anderson Herald Bulletin. February 23, 1970. p. 1.
4meter4 (talk) 17:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC).
- This looks good! Long enough, eligible, no evidence of copyvio, QPQ done. Hook is cited in-article. I'll have to AGF on the source itself, but otherwise everything seems good. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Doreen Lofthouse
- ... that the shape of Fisherman's Friend lozenges (pictured) was based on the buttons on a dress worn by Doreen Lofthouse?
- Source: "the shape of the lozenge is based on the design of the buttons on one of the dresses Doreen Lofthouse wore to the office" from: Chrystal, Paul (30 June 2021). The History of Sweets. Pen and Sword History. pp. 63–64. ISBN 978-1-5267-7886-4.
- ALT1: ... that Doreen Lofthouse sent samples of Fisherman's Friend lozenges (pictured) to celebrities seen to be coughing in public, including Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan? Source: "” She never missed a marketing opportunity, and whenever any personality was heard to cough in public, she would dispatch Fisherman’s Friends. Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and the Prince of Wales were among her beneficiaries." from:"Doreen Lofthouse, businesswoman who made Fisherman's Friend lozenges a global bestseller – obituary". Daily Telegraph. 31 March 2021. Retrieved 1 July 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Doreen Lofthouse developed Fisherman's Friend (lozenges pictured) from a local remedy for seamen's ailments into a sweet, made in the billions and exported to 120 countries? Source: "invented in 1865 by James Lofthouse, a pharmacist who devised a range of cures for the trawlermen of the Lancashire fishing port of Fleetwood ... When she suggested trying to sell the lozenges outside the town “they thought I was a little crazy,” she recalled" from: >"Doreen Lofthouse, businesswoman who made Fisherman's Friend lozenges a global bestseller – obituary". Daily Telegraph. 31 March 2021. Retrieved 1 July 2024. "Since then, the family business has grown to produce about 5 billion lozenges a year" from: "Fisherman's Friend tycoon leaves £41m to hometown Fleetwood". BBC News. 22 October 2021. Retrieved 28 June 2024. "the cough sweet is now available in 120 countries" from: "Lofthouses' extra strong marriage". BBC Lancashire. 20 July 2009. Retrieved 28 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wellesbourne, Brighton
Dumelow (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing... New enough, long enough, QPQ provided, reads well, hooks are interesting. Will complete soon Whispyhistory (talk) 10:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- ... Earwig's copyvio~10%, hooks are all in the article followed by citations to references containing the relevant hooks. All 3 hooks are interesting. The image is free. Another very enjoyable work by the author, thank you. Passing proposed hook as alt1 and 2 are too long. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Cocoa production in São Tomé and Príncipe
- ... that São Tomé and Príncipe were known as "the Chocolate Islands" in the early 1900s, when they were the world's top exporters of cocoa (samples pictured)?
- Source: Drew, Keith (6 July 2023). "How the Chocolate Islands are rediscovering their roots". BBC. Retrieved 28 June 2024.
The trees thrived in the rich volcanic soil, and by the early 1900s, São Tomé and Príncipe was the biggest exporter of cacao in the world, earning it the nickname of 'The Chocolate Islands'.
- ALT1: ... that São Tomé and Príncipe was known as "the Chocolate Islands" in the early 1900s, when it was the world's top exporter of cocoa (samples pictured)? Source: Same as above.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emmanuella Atora
- Comment: Technically, São Tomé and Príncipe is a singular country (a Portuguese colony at the time mentioned in the hook). The hook should therefore use singular conjugations of verbs, but it sounded too odd upon my initial reading. I thus changed the verbs to their plural conjugations, as if the islands themselves are being described rather than the modern country or the former colony. I have nonetheless included my original wording as ALT1, in case the reviewer or promoter wants to compare the two.
Yue🌙 07:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Yue, review follows: article created 3 July and exceeds minimum length; I reworded one sentence slightly to move it further from the source, but otherwise I don't think there is an issue with overly close paraphrasing; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources for the subject; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited (BBC); a QPQ has been provided; image is properly licensed and looks fine. I changed from single to double quotation marks in the hooks to match the article and, I think, our MOS. In terms of plurals I think English_plurals#Geographical_plurals_used_as_singular discusses this; either alternative sounds OK to me but British English tends to be a bit more flexible than US English on this (see eg. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Plurals) - Dumelow (talk) 09:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Thank you for taking the time to do this review! On second thought, maybe ALT1 is the better choice because ALT0 implies that there were two exporters instead of one. Yue🌙 02:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 4
editQuintus et Ultimus Watson
- ... that Quintus et Ultimus Watson was the acting governor of Texas for one day in 1915?
- Source: "Senator Watson Gets to Act as Governor a Day". El Paso Herald. January 9, 1915 – via University of North Texas Libraries.
- Reviewed:
Aquabluetesla (talk) 17:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: What's most interesting about this guy is his unusual name, which the article doesn't explain. Perhaps someone will figure it out when we run it. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:54, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Looking further at this, I find a source which comments on the name without really explaining it. It's The Strangest Names in American Political History and there are three of them. What a great triple hook they would have made.... Andrew🐉(talk) 21:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
René Heyde
- ... that 14 months after taking up track cycling, René Heyde narrowly missed out being selected to the New Zealand team at the 1972 Summer Olympics?
- Source: Contemporary reporting in The Press: "The outcome of those trials — and even though Heyde crashed — was that four “certainties” and himself were named to compete finally at Wanganui. As five were to be nominated for Munich, it seemed certain Heyde would go on that trip. But as it happened, and because Heyde had crashed, N. R. Lyster was asked at the last minute to attend the Wanganui trials. Without riding, he was given the fifth place ahead of Heyde."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles
- Comment: There was some reporting about Heyde in today's newspaper. I looked him up and he had quite an interesting, if tragic, background.
Schwede66 10:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Everything looks good. Hook is interesting, sourced, and article passes copyvio checks. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Big Duck, Domestic duck
- ... that duck farming on Long Island got a boost from a big duck (pictured)?
- Source: "The building was ... intended as a farm shop as well as for publicity" / https://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/14colli.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Teri Ore
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dan Erlewine
- Comment: This has incubated a long time. I started Big Duck in 2006 and finally got around to getting it up to GA standards. By coincidence, I saw that Chiswick Chap had just put Domestic duck up for review. We reviewed each other's GA noms, which as far as I can tell from WP:DYKRR is not a problem.
RoySmith (talk) 18:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC).
- Hah, the Big Duck image looks great. Yeah, I think the round-robin with the reviewing is fine here. Great articles all around; both are eligible and high-quality. Source checks out, as do both QPQs. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Kubrick stare
- ... that Donald Trump's mugshot has been described as a Kubrick stare?
- ALT1: ... that a Kubrick stare can break the fourth wall? Source: https://journals.openedition.org/essais/646
- ALT2: ... that the Kubrick stare is one of "cinema's most recognizable shots"? Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/donald-trump-mugshot-stanley-kubrick/
- ALT3: ... that a Kubrick stare can be "invasive" and "troubling"? Source: https://journals.openedition.org/essais/646
- Reviewed: Isabella Correa
- Comment: I'm eschewing the McDowell image as it is too closely cropped and eliminates the forehead, which has been mentioned as an element of the Kubrick stare. I really desire this to be an image hook (as does the subject of the photo), so I'm fine with a set-builder pushing this far back or anything similar.
Bremps... 10:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ is done, article is new enough, article is long enough. WP:EARWIG says "Violation Unlikely". Personally I would not use the hook mentioning Trump's mug shot, because it would be a bit strange to mention it but then show an entirely different photograph. ALT3 is the one I think is best because it matches the photograph the most. Overall, good to go for ALT3. Di (they-them) (talk) 15:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I just noticed that Stanley Kubrick's 96th birthday is coming up on July 26. If it does not compromise the image hook, could we have the hook run on that date? Thanks. Bremps... 19:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- No objections from me! Di (they-them) (talk) 00:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I just noticed that Stanley Kubrick's 96th birthday is coming up on July 26. If it does not compromise the image hook, could we have the hook run on that date? Thanks. Bremps... 19:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 5
editHenry Donch
- ... that musician Henry Donch witnessed the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and served on the grand jury which convicted Charles Guiteau, the assassin of President Garfield?
- Source: A. T. M. (March 22, 1919). "Passed Away: Henry Donch". Musical America. ISSN 0735-7788. pg. 51 https://books.google.com/books?id=Bkc0AQAAMAAJ
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)