Talk:Prehistoric Georgia

Requested move 19 April 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. Though there is considerable support because the root name (Georgia) is ambiguous, there is also strong opposition based on the argument that since this is the only article with a topic that can claim "Prehistoric Georgia" as its title, disambiguation is unnecessary. --В²C ☎ 03:57, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

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Prehistoric Georgia → Prehistoric Georgia (country) – Prehistory has no affinity for Georgia (country) over Georgia (U.S. state). Compare History of Georgia (country), History of Georgia (U.S. state). BD2412 T 02:26, 19 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – MaterialWorks 18:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:OVERPRECISION and WP:CONCISE. Unlike Georgia and History of Georgia, each of which have two or more articles with identical titles, there's only one article titled Prehistoric Georgia. A hatnote pointing to the less-read and related but not synonymous article Paleontology in Georgia is sufficient. Station1 (talk) 08:51, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support For disambiguation as well as consistency with titles of related articles. It represents my bias as a resident of the U.S., but I was surprised on seeing the page title as I thought it was about the prehistory of the state of Georgia, a topic I have worked on, yet I had not previously run across the article. By the way, User:Station1, Paleontology in Georgia is a redirect to Paleontology in Georgia (U.S. state) (resulting from a discussion nine years ago), which leaves this page as the odd one out. - Donald Albury 13:20, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

  Hardly the odd one out. There are hundreds of articles on WP that have "Georgia" or "Georgian" in their titles without further qualification, either because they are the only topic using a particular title or because they are the primary topic for that title. So consistency is not an issue. However, if you are suggesting that Prehistoric Georgia would continue to redirect here after a move, like Paleontology in Georgia has done for nine years, I would be less opposed to the proposal. Station1 (talk) 21:11, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

• Support per WP:ASTONISH. Subtopics of ambiguous titles is one case where we prefer to preemptively disambiguate even if there is no article about the other subject so long as it is of similar prominence (as a counterexample, Georgian wine can be about the country and Governor of Georgia can be about the state). -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:31, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support per WP:SHORTFORM. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:59, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. We don't have an article on the prehistory of the State of Georgia that this needs to be disambiguated from. As far as I can tell, we don't have articles on the prehistory of any state, or indeed on the prehistory of the United States (it redirects to geological history of the United States). Anyone "astonished" to find this article here is really letting their Americentrism show. – Joe (talk) 04:55, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting to get a clearer consensus. – MaterialWorks 18:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose as stated, as it implies that "Prehistoric Georgia" is a country. Maybe Prehistory in the country of Georgia would be better, if clunky. I'd argue the others should be moved similarly, to History of the country of Georgia and History of the state of Georgia for example. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:52, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:CONCISE title; no WP:DAB needed. Regards, An emperor ✖ 02:27, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Support. If it refers to the country and has its name in the title, it needs to have the parenthetical dabber. BhamBoi (talk) 03:49, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.