Talk:Carus

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Oatley2112 in topic When Did Carus Die?

Place of birth

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The following is mostly for my own reference.

http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/victor.caes2.html#38.1 (Reference, in Latin, for Marcus Aurelius Carus' birth in Naron. "38 1 Carus, Narbonae natus, imperavit annos duos." ) http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Historia_Augusta/Carus_et_al*.html (A subsequent reference in English.) Zeno Izen 01:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Heck, suddenly I'm finding that the birthplace of Carus is controversial. I'm going to revert my edit pending more research. I assume no one watches this page. If so... pointers to more documentation on this matter would be appreciated. Zeno Izen 01:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

We need a DAB page for Carus

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There are a few "Carus" last names. I believe that WP tries to accommodate those who may not have the full name right by directing them to a DAB page. To do that this existing Carus article would need to be moved. To what name should it be moved? Marcus Aurelius Carus seems the right choice, but I would like the agreement of those watching the page. DCDuring 03:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

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When Did Carus Die?

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I've been reading Arthur James Mason's The Persecution of Diocletian. My initial intention was simply to add Carus' death to the December 21 page, as that is the date Mason gives, but thought it was strange that it wasn't already there. The few places I looked at online says late July/early August of 283, but Mason specifically dates it as December 21, 283 in the chronological table at the back of the book.[1]

He says on page 1 of his work that "In the year 283, on or about the very day when the Church, at any rate in the West, had already learned to celebrate the Birthday of the Saviour, the Emperor Carus died in the remote East, in the midst of a most prosperous campaign against the Persians."[2] Thus, "It was from that day that Diocletian dated his own reign."[3]

So on what authority do we claim that Carus died in late July/early August of 283 rather than on the specific date of December 21, the day or day before Diocletian claimed the empire for himself? Mason's work is quite old by this stage, so I don't want to assume newer scholarship has not unearthed some information that makes the July/August date more plausible. DJKinsella (talk) 10:48, 22 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

See William Leadbetter's article on Carus, which dates his death to July/August 283 (http://www.roman-emperors.org/carus.htm) Oatley2112 (talk) 11:56, 22 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Mason, Arthur James. "The Persecution of Diocletian". The Internet Archive. Deighton Bell & Co. Retrieved 22 November 2019.
  2. ^ Mason, Arthur James. "The Persecution of Diocletian". The Internet Archive. Deighton Bell & Co. Retrieved 22 November 2019.
  3. ^ Mason, Arthur James. "The Persecution of Diocletian". The Internet Archive. Deighton Bell & Co. Retrieved 22 November 2019.