Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Ernest J. King

Nominator(s): Hawkeye7 (talk)

It's the 80th anniversary of D-Day, so I thought I would nominate a World War II article. After writing up William D. Leahy, I thought I would tackle the US Navy's second most senior admiral, Ernest J. King, a renowned submariner and aviator who commanded the US Fleet during World War II. Hawkeye7 (discuss)

Matarisvan

Hi Hawkeye7, saving a spot, will post comments soon.

Remove the double link to the Atlantic Fleet in the lead?
Y Removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since we have so much material in the body, consider expanding the lead to 4 paragraphs?
Any suggestions as to what other things could be mentioned? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"served in the cruiser": "on" instead of "in" would be better?
Y Yes. Changed as suggested. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"flagship or Rear Admiral": "of"?
Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove the second link to cruiser in the body?
Y Unlinked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove the second link to destroyer below the Mayo staff pic?
Y Unlinked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do we know what exactly King disliked about Wilson?
Y Different personalities. Added this. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rework the Swanson part of the sentence to avoid SEAOFBLUE? Something like "Claude A. Swanson, the new Secretary of the Navy" instead?
Y Changed as suggested. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"as indeed did occur": sounds a little off, "as indeed occured" may be better?
Y Yes. Changed as suggested. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Link to G7e torpedo?
Already linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You will have to get rid of the disputed neutrality tag on the War in the Atlantic section.
I hope it can be removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We say he got his first Navy DSC for the salvage of S-51 in the lead and body. But we do not mention what the other two DSCs were for in either the lead or body, only in the Citations section do we have those details.
Y Mentioned in connection with salvage of the S-4. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What I have noticed is that Dates of Rank and Awards sections are ok at A class level but not at FA level. Especially since you already mention, in chronological order, his promotions in the lead sections. Zawed might be best able to resolve this.
I have other articles that went through FAC with Dates of Rank sections. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was quite surprised to see you had used plain <ref> tags instead of sfns. I hope you will change to the latter before nominating for FAC?
I would greatly prefer it. MOS:STYLERET: If you believe an alternative style would be more appropriate for a particular article, seek consensus by discussing this at the article's talk page Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I could not understand this. Will you be changing to the sfns or not? Matarisvan (talk) 09:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot change it without consensus to do so. That would be a blockable offence. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think anyone would oppose that, you should open a new section for this on the talk page. Matarisvan (talk) 07:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Location of publication is needed for Barlow 1998, Buell 1998, Heinrichs 1998, Stoler 2003
Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You could consider using the ISBN converter for converting ISBN numbers from 10 digits to 13 digits.
WP:ISBN: if an older work only lists an ISBN-10, use that in citations instead of calculating an ISBN-13 for it
Remove the double link to John B. Hattendorf in Hattendorf 2023?
I think this is okay. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, perhaps we should get a second opinion? Matarisvan (talk) 09:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Year of publication needed for Hone & Utz.
Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Link to , as done for other journals?
Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Consider adding the category Recipients of the Order of Naval Merit (Brazil)?
Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's all from me, cheers Matarisvan (talk) 04:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now that the change to sfn tags is done, reading through the references is easier. Some comments on source formatting:

- Ref #30: Add Home of Heroes as the website?
  Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Add an archive link for ref #31? I can't access it, don't know if this holds for others as well. Also, consider running the Internet Archive bot through the page once.
  Y Added archive link. It was working a few weeks ago. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Source #68: Add Warfare History Network as the website?
  Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Source #89: Can the 3 weird letters after Order 8984 be removed? They seem to be transcription errors.
  Y No, it is a unicode/Latin-1251 conversion artefact. The moral is to never use ndashes and mdashes. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Link to The Baltimore Sun, as done for other newspapers?
  Y linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Source #172: Clarify that the journal is the Proceedings of the Naval Institute?
  Y Added link. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Why did King receive the Philippine Camapign Medal? Our texts do not mention his being involved in the Philippine-American Wars of the 1910s. We do mention his involvement in the Philippine Campaign in WWII. I think this is is a mixup?
  The Far East tour in the the cruiser USS Cincinnati. I will add a bit. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Add King's name to the Notable recipients section on the Mexican Service Medal page?
  Y Added King and Leahy. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's all from me, cheers Matarisvan (talk) 07:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]