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Userbox copyright guidance

I’m looking to create a Jet Lag: The Game themed userbox. I know this qualifies as fair use under U.S. law, however the Wikipedia upload tool for non free content says that it has to be for an article, explicitly stating “no userspace”, so what is the best way to proceed?
Iovecodeabc (talk) 00:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

@Iovecodeabc: Wikipedia policy is stricter than the "fair use" law. You can only use non-free content by following WP:NFCC, and that includes only using it in articles. You can create a user box that says "This user plays Jet Lag: The Game" but you can't use any copyrighted images/screenshots etc in that userbox. RudolfRed (talk) 01:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Rename Draft:Pepe to Policemen Story

There is an error in the title and the article should be renamed. 2A02:9130:803B:C427:7879:15DD:A35C:63C1 (talk) 14:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I renamed it to Draft:Policemen Story, submitted it to AFC for you, and made an edit in the edit history mentioning that it was translated (in order to comply with WP:CWW). Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Was this released in English as "Policemen Story", do English-language reviews call it that, or is there a prominent fan translation with that title? If not, then the article should appear under the Spanish title "Una historia de policias" and not under the English name. -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 02:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Arabic Wikipedia

Hi, sorry to bother everyone but I stumbled address the Arabic Wikipedia and they had a large banner that said something about the Hamas Israel war, and it was like (don’t quote me on this) stop the genocide in Gaza! And I could be wrong I’m not a Wikipedia editor but I was just curious like is this agents policy, like I don’t mind it at all but I was just wondering 2600:6C48:617F:2533:9D74:4184:C6F7:F5D6 (talk) 03:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

All language versions of Wikipedia are editorially independent, none of our policies at en.wiki affect ar.wiki and vice versa. CMD (talk) 04:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

I know this issue has been discussed in places, also in the media, but I don't have any links atm. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

https://ar.m.luquay.com/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A6%D9%8A%D8%B3%D8%A9 2600:6C48:617F:2533:55B:74F7:C323:A7C (talk) 20:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

I think it was this one meta:Requests for comment/Community consensus for blackouts and other advocacy. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 22:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Inexplicably popular article (by views)

Neatsville, Kentucky in April was the 2nd most viewed Kentucky-related article and has been similarly highly viewed for several months. I cannot make sense of this. This is a small unincorporated community in the middle of rural Kentucky. I cannot find any TV show or movie referencing it. It also doesn't make sense that anyone would be gaming this outcome for months (although I suppose this isn't impossible). Am I missing something? Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 21:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Fascinating. Two-year pageviews are even higher on average, peaking in mid-2023. I see no news coverage or anything else that would drive this traffic. BD2412 T 21:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

The start of this climb in pageviews seems to have been on 24/25 August 2021 ([1]), when daily pageviews climbed from 2 to 410 to 1,717. Perhaps this may narrow the search for what is causing this. Curbon7 (talk) 22:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Billy Joe in the same Kentucky county announced he saw a UFO on 8/24. LOL. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 23:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Also, nearly all of the traffic coming to the article is from unidentified external routes (which is highly unusual), and there is virtually no traffic from this article to other articles (also highly unusual). BD2412 T 22:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Maybe there's a viral post or tweet somewhere with an easter egg? Schazjmd (talk) 22:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Possibly. Although I've not heard it, I can easily imagine a meme in which "Neatsville" (a redirect to the article) becomes a trendy term of approval. (Compare Coolsville.) Alternatively, someone may be trying to get it into a most-viewed listing. It would be interesting to know how many different IPs have accessed the article (perhaps counting each IPv6 /64 as one), rather than just the number of hits. Certes (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Redirects seem to be negligible in their impact. Unchecking "Include redirects" makes virtually no difference. Regarding someone gaming this, that's an awful lot of such to sustain. Of course, this could be a script disguising itself as a real person. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 22:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer on redirects: I hadn't spotted that. Yes, I assumed it was scripted. It does seem erratic and slightly seasonal, with peaks in spring 2023 and 2024, but does not vary much by day of week. Certes (talk) 22:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

That crossed my mind, but I think the incoming traffic would be more varied and identifiable for something like that, rather than a dark web monolith (speculation before further details). Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 23:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

This sounds like a repeat of Mount Takahe, which also has inexplicably high reader numbers. And like Takahe, Neatsville has fairly average reader numbers when only counting the Mobile App and only slightly elevated reader numbers with by spiders. FWIW, neither News nor Twitter/X show many if any mentions. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Help us rename the Community wishlist

Hey folks - WMF is making updates to our Community Wishlist, from making it open year round to prioritizing "focus areas" of user submitted ideas, requests, and bugs that share an underlying problem.

In this process, we've realized we're outgrowing the the name "Community Wishlist Survey" and I wanted to get your feedback on a few other options. We've offered 3 ideas, and if you have another preference, we welcome you to suggest alternatives! JWheeler-WMF (talk) 21:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I suggest you spend all the effort that would be spent on renaming on fulfilling requests on the wishlist. The name doesn't matter, and all of the options are objectively worse. It's a survey of the community about what features they wish existed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:34, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Can't you see there's important bike-shedding to be done? Jason Quinn (talk) 21:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm totally in agreement with SFR. Changing the name is silly, both because it's accurate as is and because it wastes effort which could more profitably be spent writing code to fill more of the wishlist items. RoySmith (talk) 22:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

In my opinion, the existing name describes the process clearly and has some recognition. It seems more precise than the other options presented, and I'm unable to come up with a different term which would be an improvement. Certes (talk) 21:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I agree with the others. The existing name is both descriptive and familiar. Dramatically changing the underlying process already makes the process significantly difficult for folks to adjust to. Changing the name makes it more obscure and harder for people to find. I'd suggest using this time to make the new process as thrilling and synergistic as the old process was. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 22:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey, all, please share your views over there, instead of setting up a WP:TALKFORK here. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

(In Herb Tarlek voice) OK fine. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 22:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I've not commented on Meta, as I'm just here to edit English Wikipedia and don't have time to monitor yet another forum, but doing nothing sounds like an economical and productive way forward. Certes (talk) 08:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Rule of Three

Has there been anybody who tried to complete the rule of three when it comes to "Editing Wikipedia while driving" and "Editing Wikipedia while drunk" on Wikipedia:Deleted articles with freaky titles? Perhaps, "Editing Wikipedia while drunk driving"?

i am very interested in the deleted articles with freaky titles but i'm too chicken to make it myself OrlandoApollosFan69 (talk) 02:29, 2 June 2024 (UTC)