Talk:Stranger in a Strange Land (Lost)

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The title for this episode is very likely a reference to the passage in the Bible that uses the phrase "stranger in a strange land." I can't prove it, but it is a lot more likely than inexplicably referencing a novel about a human from Mars who learns the ways of Earth people. The book's title is itself a reference to the phrase from the Bible. Put on a "citation needed" if you feel you must, but I don't think it needs to be reverted back.--Smooth Nick 05:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I disagree. Two possible analogies to Heinlein's "Michael Valentine Smith" character. One, Jack in Thailand, who arrives in an Asian culture that he is unfamiliar with, but he seems "destined for great things" or "great leadership" though as his tattoo states he is "not one of us".
More tenuous though may be Karl, who raised by "Others" (like Smith), now finds himself in amongst "primitive humans" (Kate, Sawyer, et al).
The book is a cultural artifact, referenced in songs and other media elsewhere. Although the title derives from the Bible, the book is what has made it famous. Lost is big on literary references and comparisons anyway.~ZytheTalk to me! 00:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
In Heinlein's book, as in this episode of Lost, we have the main character imprisoned in an alien culture and attended by a female that he is attracted to. Personally, I wouldn't take the analogy farther than the literal meaning of the title, and the article should give reference to BOTH possible sources, the Bible AND Heinlein. We are not here to make decisions on intended meaning, but to provide information. I don't understand why this has to be discussed at all. Just put it all in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.22.86.94 (talk) 09:51, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Content

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Is there any particular reason why the entire Summary section has been gutted completely? 138.192.146.45 01:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

According to this edit the summary was taken from Lostpedia. Olessi 06:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
A synopsys is a synopsys nomater where the source. It's a detail of a sequence of events and would be the same no mater who wrote it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.21.255.17 (talk) 14:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC).Reply

Summary.

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Ok, where is the summary, and why is there an edit war seemingly going on over it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.234.236.149 (talk) 11:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC).Reply

Tattoos

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Can someone confirm that that is what Jack's tattoos actually say? — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 11:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Never mind, the actual meaning is on Jack's article. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 11:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

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GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Stranger in a Strange Land (Lost)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I'll be doing the GA review for this article. Here are some suggestions for improvement.

  • Characters and actors should be linked the first time they appear, so they need to be linked in the lead, if that is their first mention.
  • Mention something about the reception in the lead.
  • Also, I'd mention something about the episode being created around Fox's tattoos.
  • Others is linked twice in the plot.
  • Greatest Hits (Lost), which is a FA, mentions what day it is on the island.
  • How many viewers saw the episode? How does it compare to the previous Lost episode, and how does it compare to other shows that ran at the same time?
  • Image:Strangerstrangelandlost-011.jpg needs a fair use rationale.

A copyedit is also needed, but I'll do that when everything else is taken care of. The article will be on hold for seven days. Nikki311 13:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

I struck out all the fixed things, hope you don't mind. I will try to fix the rest of it soon. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 09:13, 11 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
I have fixed most of the raised points. I added some info on Fox's tattoos, is it enough? As for the date on the island, I cannot find it on the net. Even though "Greatest Hits" has it, not all other Lost episodes do. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 12:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Great work. I think it is good enough without the date on the island to pass. I'm going to pass the article. Question, though: is the first paragraph in italics because it is a flashback, or is that a typo? Nikki311 16:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the pass. I did not write the plot section, but I'm pretty sure its because it is a flashback. I am actually going to remove the italics, because other Lost episodes are not like that. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 06:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

POV "known for being one of the worst episodes"

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Knowledge implies truth, which means being widely known as one of the worst episodes implies that it is one of the worst episodes. That's blatant POV, which isn't supposed to be allowed here. Perhaps it's widely viewed as one of the worst episodes. I haven't seen it yet and thus haven't formed an opinion, but it's certainly an opinion even if it's widely shared. Parableman (talk) 13:36, 22 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

The show's creator has publicy acknowledged this, so I will add some quotation marks and add a citation later. –thedemonhog talkedits 14:49, 22 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
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