Talk:Seven Psychopaths

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Corvoe in topic Box office mojo not reliable.

Country of Origin?

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I notice it says both United States and United Kingdom. Well Film4, BFI and Blueprint Pictures are all British production studios, so where does America come into it?--Allthestrongbowintheworld (talk) 21:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

How does that make it English? It has a mostly American and Irish cast and crew.

A film belongs to its production companies and producers, not the cast and crew.--Allthestrongbowintheworld (talk) 19:30, 4 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
Would also like to point out that when referring to cinema, we use "British" not English. That includes Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. MisterShiney 22:21, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

This film is not Irish

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Martin McDonagh is Irish but he lives and works in the UK, and according to these production notes, he produced the film through HanWay Films. IMDb also lists Film4, Blueprint Pictures and the British Film Institute as producers. If four British companies made this film then this film is British, regardless of what an Irish newspaper columnist may claim. --Allthestrongbowintheworld (talk) 12:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No comedy

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This film is to bloody to be described only as comedy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.80.162.245 (talk) 22:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Regardless. It is still a comedy film. That is what film age certificates are for. MisterShiney 22:21, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Plot

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A Google search revealed that the plot summary was copied-and-pasted, probably from the original promotional material. The article needs a plot summary written in an objective, encyclopedic manner. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 15:03, 11 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Give me 10 minutes ;) MisterShiney 15:14, 11 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Never mind. I got beaten to the punch by someone who did a much better job than I ever could! MisterShiney 15:36, 11 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Much appreciated! (I didn't actually see this until a minute ago – good thing or I probably wouldn't have bothered.) —Flax5 15:52, 11 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I still have not seen the movie, so I had no hope of writing a summary. Thanks for taking care of it, Flax5. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 16:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

There was a line about Hans leaving "in disgust". I changed it; in the movie, Hans' "disgust" isn't explicit, and I didn't see it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.102.142 (talk) 06:13, 17 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Box office mojo not reliable.

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Sometimes box office mojo fails to add up the total international gross. I recommend using a more reliable source but some people have copied the list and added it up themselves to come up with a total (copying and pasting the list to a spreadsheet presumably, at least that is how I've verified Box Office Mojo was making a mess of the totals before).

Rounding the figures is not a good idea, it would be preferable to accept the mistakes made by Box Office Mojo and just accept the flawed figure they give (just as Wikipedia often goes with published sources even if experts know better). User Corvoe has previously changed the gross to a reliable source, then changed it back to the manually added box office mojo figure with an added explanation of the figure. (It seems strange that Corvoe was able to comment to explain the figure but then later rounded the figure and said we could not know the figure was accurate.) [As I write Corvoe has made it clear he added the warning in the first place.]

Fixing mistakes on Box Office Mojo is not good policy. It is tantamount to original research and this is not the only article I've seen this done on and now I think it needs to stop.

Clearly this needs more discussion than edit summaries, and a proper consensus. Suggestions:

  1. Go with published total worldwide gross figure from Box Office Mojo
  2. Go with published total worldwide gross figure from The-Numbers
  3. Other suggestion?

Maybe this needs to be taken to WP:MOSFILM once we have more than one example of this unreliability. -- 109.76.224.73 (talk) 17:42, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Found another example, Mortal Instruments. In that case there was a lot more anonymous edits from an active fanbase. There were very few proper edit summaries (making the origin of the figures very confusing) and almost no discussion. In that case the article was reverted to The-Numbers.com since Box Office Mojo had shown itself to be unreliable, but since there was no discussion there was no consensus either. -- 109.76.224.73 (talk) 17:51, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
I have requested discussion on this but no replies yet. WT:MOSFILM -- 109.77.234.59 (talk) 16:04, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
No one's obliged to reply to you. I actually didn't see this discussion until now. I figured for now that rounding the figures up and putting them in a range (like I've done) seems to be our best course of action for right now. There isn't a strict policy on these, because The-Numbers and BOM are both considered reliable. I feel like adding up foreign box office totals should be acceptable, but I also see where you're coming from. I'm still thinking our best bet is, if TN and BOM are different, a range can be used for the gross. Corvoe (speak to me) 16:50, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply