Talk:Japanese occupation of Malaya

Latest comment: 6 years ago by AustralianRupert in topic Hardships sentence makes no sense

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Move this page to Japanese occupation of Malaysia? 69.234.180.76 (talk) 22:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Nope. Malaysia didn't exist in the 1940s, plain and simple. - Two hundred percent (talk) 04:50, 10 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
Then what do you think about Japanese occupation of Indonesia, Indonesia also didn't exist until 1945 when it declared independence. 71.107.74.39 (talk) 04:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
The formation of Indonesia was the direct result of the occupation, so that's barely a good example. Present day Malaysia and Singapore remained fragmented up until the formation of Malaysia in 1963. - 60.53.43.143 (talk) 12:25, 4 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
Note: Japanese occupation of Malaysia redirects to this page. I concur with Two hundred percent.Muthu raama —Preceding undated comment added 13:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Not any more - NealeFamily (talk) 04:26, 30 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Discussion about splitting the article

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I am seeking comment on splitting and renaming this article at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Japanese occupation of Malaya, North Borneo and Sarawak NealeFamily (talk) 03:05, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

The reason for the article being split is because it is now >50 kilobytes in size and growing, also there are two distinct subject areas. See WP:AS. Discussion at the military history site concluded it could be split (but there was only 2 particpants). The proposed split is into Japanese occupation of Malaya and Japanese occupation of northern Borneo. The later would include the occupation of Sarawak, Labuan, Brunei, and British North Borneo (now known as Sabah). The Japanese of southern Borneo is covered fairly shallowly in Japanese occupation of Indonesia. NealeFamily (talk) 00:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

How about naming the latter Japanese occupation of British North Borneo? As far as I am aware (though I may well be wrong), North Borneo's official name was simply North Borneo, not British North Borneo - BNB was the term used at the time to refer to all the British territories on the island of Borneo (NB, Sarawak, Labuan and Brunei), so would be the appropriate term here. Jasper33 (talk) 11:52, 5 June 2013 (UTC) Or alternatively, Japanese occupation of British Borneo? (Gen Wootten used the term in his 18 Aug 1945 pamphlet dropped to POWs and Internees at Batu Lintang). After all, Dutch Borneo was a recognised term at the time, so why not British Borneo for the rest of the island? Jasper33 (talk) 14:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
A split as proposed seems sensible. From memory, the Japanese had different occupation governments in Malaya and Borneo. Nick-D (talk) 12:07, 5 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the suggestions about naming. The Japanese referred to the area encompassing Sabah, Brunei, Labuan, and Sarawak as Kita Boruneo. The term British North Borneo excludes Sarawak, Brunei, and at times Labuan. As an alternative I could name the article the Japanese occupation of British North Borneo, Brunei, Labuan, and Sarawak. This may be the less confusing to the modern reader but a bit long winded. Actually I think I prefer Jasper33's British Borneo and Dutch Borneo as being appropriate for the time period and consistant with the Japanese occupation. NealeFamily (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hardships sentence makes no sense

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This sentence makes no sense and needs fixing:

"Because Malaya produced more rubber and tin than Japan was able to utilize Malaya lost its export income."

--23.119.204.117 (talk) 00:24, 18 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

G'day, I made an attempt to clarify the sentence with this edit: [1]. I don't have access to the source, though, so please feel free to revert if I got it wrong. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:46, 13 May 2018 (UTC)Reply