Talk:African Rite

Latest comment: 9 years ago by 2602:306:8B04:2D60:37:1E7E:5FBD:A93F in topic Fair use rationale for Image:Africa Romana.gif

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Does anyone else think that this article seems a little long, really excessive for the subject matter? It's a pretty minor thing as far as I can tell, and seems like Wikipedia would be better served by a shorter, and, more importantly, more concise version. aubrey 19:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'm going to try to condense by

  • 1.cutting out non-cited information,
  • 2.grammar copyediting,
  • and 3. messing with syntax and format.

Hopefully it is helpful. If you think it's working let me know, maybe we can get this page fixed up and off the cleanup list. Also, if you have any sources please add them, as that is not my strongest suit. Resonanteye 12:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

only thing that made me nervous= "At Mass the faithful received communion under the element of bread from the bishop or priest, and under the element of wine from the deacon, and each one, after receiving communion, answered "Amen" to profess his faith in the sacrament. Sometimes the faithful carried the Host home, and there communicated themselves, especially in times of persecution. "

Is under the element a phrase with some specific, and necessary, meaning here, which would need explanation if so, or is it just awkward verbiage that should be cut? I did cut it, so if it needs to be there, please replace it. If you do so, please also add a wikilink to a page that explains what it is, since it just confused me...(and I grew up around Catholics!) Resonanteye

Fair use rationale for Image:Africa Romana.gif

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Image:Africa Romana.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

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Christian Burial

Within this section there is a level of bias and speculation regarding the beliefs of the African Church and the later development of purgatory within Roman Catholicism. The author wrote: "St. Augustine in the 4th century also insists, that the normally passed away Christian faithful should be prayed for during the Eucharist's Memento "at our altars", but forbade to pray for the martyrs - these heroes were believed to be immediately with God after their deaths. A belief in purgatory is thereby indirectly established, even if this point of faith was not yet called that way and was rather universally held than episcopally imposed." The author implies more than the text suggests, so the commentary regarding purgatory should be removed. Furthermore, this section deals with the rites associated with burial, not speculation as to why they did this. Since there is no citation from an African Christian of the time period supporting the idea and understanding of purgatory as understood within Catholicism, the author's claim lacks credibility. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, purgatory is "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven, who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8B04:2D60:37:1E7E:5FBD:A93F (talk) 05:27, 26 January 2015 (UTC)Reply