Talk:Hezbollah involvement in the Syrian civil war

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Latest comment: 6 years ago by Bobfrombrockley in topic Another atrocious Wikipedia article

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Propose to merge April 2015 al-Qalamoun incident -> Hezbollah involvement in the Syrian Civil War The article is ridiculously small and is not evidently passing WP:NOTABLE criteria - we have only sources from the days of the event, indicating WP:NOTNEWS is relevant.GreyShark (dibra) 05:20, 4 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Oppose. While the article should optimally be expanded, it basically covers the event based on reliable sources. The incident was indeed notable and has been covered by international media, not restricted to news reports, but also including commentary from highly relevant sources such as al-Jazeera, The Economist, and the NZZ. Finally, the fact that Israel outright denies any involvement doesn't affect its noteworthiness, at least not negatively. --PanchoS (talk) 11:21, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
all sources are from the date of the event, making it eligible for WP:NOTNEWS.GreyShark (dibra) 18:06, 10 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

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I just want to note that all the sources for this piece come from media that is awoedly hostile to Hezbollah: Israeli and US newspapers, Saudi TV and a couple of Lebanese sources that are aligned with Hezbollah's rivals in Lebanon. I'm not saying that what they say can't be true but shouldn't the piece, in the name of balance, mention the other side of the story so we can judge? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.174.185.156 (talk) 18:07, 30 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

If you have rs, feel free to use them. GABHello! 18:09, 30 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
Reliable sources can be POV and hostile to each other. As long as they are reliable. POV source can be reliable if it stands to reliability standards (board review for instance). Actually Hezbollah affiliated sources are typically not reliable in this sense, as they don't have a review board.GreyShark (dibra) 07:44, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
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Propose to merge April 2017 Rif Dimashq airstrike -> Hezbollah involvement in the Syrian Civil War per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTABLE - all sources are from 27 April 2017 and the article is just one paragraph long, doubtfully ever to be developed beyond that.GreyShark (dibra) 20:50, 17 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

  DoneGreyShark (dibra) 17:53, 25 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned references in Hezbollah involvement in the Syrian Civil War

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Hezbollah involvement in the Syrian Civil War's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "AJ":

  • From Aref Dalila: "Profiles: Syrian opposition figures". Al Jazeera. 27 June 2011. Retrieved 19 July 2012.
  • From April 2017 Rif Dimashq airstrike: "'Israeli strikes' hit arms depot in Damascus". Al Jazeera. Retrieved 27 April 2017.
  • From Abdulbaset Sieda: "Profile: Syria's Abdulbaset Sieda". Al Jazeera English. 10 June 2012.
  • From 2015 Beirut bombings: "Day of mourning in Lebanon after deadly Beirut bombings". Al Jazeera. 13 November 2015. Retrieved 15 November 2015.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 19:11, 25 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Another atrocious Wikipedia article

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Where to begin...the entire article is a great example of the Wikipedia model's shortcomings. Poorly written and referenced with a pro-Western bias, a rather common state of affairs at Wikipedia. It also uses at least one non-reliable source to prop up a dubious claim. If someone wants to try fixing it, good luck to you. The tenacity of the trolls and propagandists who stink up political Wikipedia make efforts to maintain a NPOV thankless and, unless you have unlimited time on your hands and no life, ultimately futile.User2346 (talk) 11:04, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Why not add the better source tag to problematic sources? BobFromBrockley (talk) 12:13, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply